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JayBird [6:07]: Monday will be a quiet day on the economic news front. No economic data is scheduled to be released for the U.S. on Monday.
Monday will be a quiet day on the economic news front. No economic data is scheduled to be released for the U.S. on Monday.
dreambig [7:59]: Gar Thanks for the great book love it lots of great info you speel it out so even I can understand
karenbcz [8:37]: Hmmm .. looks like huge up day today.
karenbcz [8:40]: Knight said FBP would breakout. It's up 20% in pre-market.
jim [8:51]: Morning all
jim [8:52]: wow where is everybody this morning?
LEECO [8:53]: Good Morning-JB, dream,Karenbcz, jim-I was busy paying bills, chopping weeds, backwashing pool from 05:30 to now-but here I am now
jim [8:53]: Morning Leeco
lindo [8:55]: morning all
jim [8:56]: Morning Lindo
LEECO [8:57]: Since nester not here Iwill attempt to give a poor weak subsisition. Markets are up in Asia and Europe-Dow at 07:00 up 70, Stocks trading inEurope mostly up. Oil Is ip over $2 /barrel, commodities are generally higher,
LEECO [8:57]: morning lindo
2 [8:58]: Morning
LEECO [8:58]: To Ryme 2 are you new?
LEECO [9:00]: Premarket shows Bear ETF's down 2%-3%, stocks general higher in premarket-
jim [9:04]: Stock index futures rose on Monday, building on last week's gains and tracking higher global equities, after strong euro zone industrial data and as oil prices advanced.
European shares hit a four-week high after data showed euro zone industrial output surged in April more than in any month in almost two decades, easing concerns that a slowdown in Europe could curb growth.
jim [9:04]: LONDON (AP) -- The board of BP PLC will on Monday discuss U.S. demands to suspend dividend payments to shareholders until the British company pays for the cleanup of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill
Treacherous_Cretin [9:05]: $1 Trillion mineral resources discovery is a happy coincidence in the face of possible destabilization from currency failure...LOL
jim [9:05]: NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. labor market will hold the key to a recovery in the hard-hit housing sector, according to a Harvard University report released on Monday.
Record high foreclosures and a high jobless rate both pose significant challenges to the housing market, but some recovery in labor markets and record low mortgage rates could partly overcome other pressures, said the study from the Joint Center for Housing Studies at Harvard.
jim [9:06]: 09:02 am : S&P futures vs fair value: +7.50. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: +12.30. The tone to premarket traded remains upbeat as the euro continues to gain ground against the greenback. The euro was last quoted with a near 1.3% gain at $1.227, a morning high. Commodities have also caught a strong bid, such that the CRB Commodity Index is up 1.0%. Higher oil prices are largely responsible for that move; crude oil prices are up 2.7% to $75.80 per barrel in the first few minutes of pit trade. Natural gas prices sport a strong 3.0% gain at $4.93 per MMBtu. As for precious metals, gold prices are down 0.5% to $1222.30 per ounce, but silver has made its way to a 1.3% gain at $18.46 per ounce.
jim [9:08]: Dollar is off this morning -1.18%
Treacherous_Cretin [9:10]: Fabulous mineral "discoveries" are nothing new by the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bre-X
Avalon [9:11]: Good morning, folks.
Treacherous_Cretin [9:11]: bye
Willie2 [9:12]: Great anothe income stream for terriosts
LEECO [9:14]: Good Morning T-C. Avalon, Willie-T_C Iassume youywere referring to announcement about mineral discoveries in Afganistan including some scarce ones
ortrade [9:14]: Good morning
RW [9:15]: mornng
rw [9:16]: Watching QCOR PM SEED COP CWTR and BP for short trade
jim [9:17]: Morning RW, Willie , Ortrade hope everyone had a good weekend
LEECO [9:18]: morning ortrade,rw,
lindo [9:21]: all mentioned for shorts, rw or just bp?
rw [9:21]: Morning Jim, Leeco.
LEECO [9:21]: morning lindo\
rw [9:23]: Lindo Mentioned for longs - buy on dips
lindo [9:23]: thanks
ortrade [9:25]: Morning everyone, looking now at indexes.. This week end is Quadruple witching thus I expect directed volatility to shield the market from major trends til weeks end. Given said that not a lot of effort in speeches briefing scheduled for today. Strangely the morning speech (James Bullard) has not time on it (new phenomena) http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/econodayframe.asp. Also beside that another important time for breakout/downs reversals is 1.25pm
jim [9:27]: ICO watcher this morning
Willie2 [9:29]: Morning all we had rain and hail all week en in South Eastern Utah
Avalon [9:31]: Good luck today, everyone.
knight [9:31]: good morning
knight [9:32]: it's seem that we will have a rally again
knight [9:33]: we did make the flat line friday as said Thursday
knight [9:35]: now FAZ is getting toward 14 target as said last week
knight [9:36]: nester has said 18
Mckoan [9:36]: Gap Play - Long ONXX @22.70
knight [9:36]: FBP is a good play ready to fire up
Willie2 [9:36]: Knight you will both be right at some time LOL
knight [9:38]: FBP 1,5-2 target
knight [9:39]: i don't why shorty are not here not trying to short ????
PA [9:39]: Good Morning LEECO, rw, karenbcz and all have not seen nester for a couple days now
knight [9:40]: ... OR BASHING OR SHITTING
rw [9:40]: Morning PA
knight [9:41]: they show up when the market is full down
rw [9:42]: Morning Dr. Knight:
rw [9:42]: Karenbcz good morning
knight [9:42]: hi RW
karenbcz [9:42]: morning RW.
knight [9:43]: SEED is doing a nice steady curve up every day
knight [9:43]: same PEIX & FBP
knight [9:44]: while FAZ & TZA down as plan
Mckoan [9:44]: Silver stocks are off and running this morning leaving gold stocks behind Ex SSRI, PAAS, HL
rw [9:45]: UVV long watcher - this one very stable pays good dividend could be good for 1% gain
LEECO [9:45]: good morning knight-
knight [9:46]: gm leeco
LEECO [9:46]: Going to wait till 10:00 tosee true trend-out for coffee now
knight [9:47]: the trend should be up all the way to continue the rally today
kempferts [9:47]: seed
Willie2 [9:48]: Bear/bull buckel all green
knight [9:49]: RDN is a good play too
LEECO [9:49]: SEED took a dive this morning from 9.13 opening to 9.01 after touching 9,23
knight [9:50]: one seller only leeco
knight [9:51]: seed target 15-16
LEECO [9:51]: knight-did you hear Bill Gates on 'THIS WEEK" yesterday-really plugging for research and development for alternate fuels &b energy.
knight [9:52]: seed is full selling this quarter - time to seed land to feed hungry chinese market
knight [9:52]: yes leeco....
LEECO [9:52]: That is renewable sources-didn't mention nueclear which I think should be develped more
knight [9:53]: right these are futur compagny for making a lot $$$ and good for our share price too
madriver [9:54]: Did he mention ethanol....I bet not!!
Hyperion [9:55]: ny state gov may have to close tonight
madriver [9:55]: Bill Gates is interested in Solar and wind......game over..... ironically enought the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has a large holding of BP.
knight [9:55]: Yesterday, briefing.com reported on "renewed takeover chatter" suggesting that Origin Agritech (NASDAQ: SEED - News) was a subject of interest from big U.S. agriculture players Monsanto Company (NYSE: MON - News) and The Mosaic Company (NYSE: MOS - News). The stock is ticking higher again today. Interestingly, the company was referred to as a "mini-Monsanto" in May by analysts at Rodman & Renshaw.
karenbcz [9:56]: HYperion: is that a joke? re: NY?
madriver [9:56]: Leeco...agree...nuclear should be about 1/2 of our power gen
Hyperion [9:56]: no joke
karenbcz [9:56]: why?
madriver [9:56]: budget cuts?
knight [9:57]: Chinese agricultural shares were beaten up in the latest market pull-back as volatility shook risk-takers to the sidelines, but select players are ahead by more than 5% over the last week as bargain hunters tip-toe back into the segment. Origin Agritech (NASDAQ: SEED - News) is Thursday's biggest winner after the firm announced the acquisition of an 80% stake in Shandong Kunfeng Biochemical Limited for approximately $2.2 million. Origin founder Dr. Gencheng Han said, "We believe this quality and accretive acquisition will increase our ability to penetrate a market space toward a clear, focused strategic path for our company and shareholders," in a statement.
Hyperion [9:57]: green stuff
madriver [9:57]: no money....
Hyperion [9:57]: yup
LEECO [10:06]: WOW-look at sectors in SV Gar has expanded the list by putting smaller divisions of sectors on-ex: 4 different oil-gas ones
lindo [10:09]: noticed that yesterday leeco. Very helpful
madriver [10:09]: where are you looking??
lindo [10:10]: mad, all the way to the right. There must be 50 of them now. Then can sort by sector
LEECO [10:11]: Upper right go to stocks 7 then right to SECTOR SELECTION
madriver [10:12]: this is nice!
madriver [10:12]: thx
LEECO [10:13]: macd-have you played "BOUNCERS" in Stocks daytrade long & short'
LEECO [10:19]: EX: I papertraded from list of bouncers long DLM in at 10:04 @ $15.06 out at 10:15 @ $$15.25 at 1.15% gain.
lindo [10:21]: iflg
ortrade [10:22]: My short watcher candidates for today MCHP YGE GME PHG LULU and SKX
PA [10:23]: Long QQQQ 500*46.0796 vs. Short DIA 200*103.0005 DEBIT $2459.68
PA [10:31]: I concluded my learning curb on day trading (real money) on Friday. Start learning Pair trading to day any suggestion are welcome.
ortrade [10:32]: LULU 200s@42.85$
jim [10:35]: apwr watcher
jim [10:36]: L APWR 8.97
carr [10:38]: Good Morning All
jim [10:40]: Morning Carr you have been missed
carr [10:40]: Thanks Jim been helping out with the promotion
ortrade [10:43]: GME 200s@22$
rw [10:44]: morning Carr
rw [10:44]: Yes glad you are back carr
carr [10:45]: Thanks RW I have not traded in over a week, just as wel because my longs have not been doing too well until Friday and today
ortrade [10:46]: SKX 200s@41.45$
rw [10:47]: I see Carr.
nester [10:47]: Morning all how is everyone?
carr [10:47]: Hey nester
jim [10:48]: Morning Nester we have missed you
nester [10:48]: been in training still have it the rest of this week. won't be here much
carr [10:49]: nester you don't need training, you need to be here
rw [10:49]: SFD long 16.97 paper
carr [10:49]: how is your computer?
PA [10:49]: Hi nester you have not been around for a few days.
nester [10:50]: lol... would love to. computer was a mess. complete reformat. should have it runnin today or tomorrow
carr [10:50]: I will send you the unlock code via email later today
nester [10:50]: Hey PA. yes, been gone. new software at work. have to learn how to use it
nester [10:50]: thanks carr...
PA [10:52]: what software do you use
nester [10:53]: we are learning the ERP and PLM. it a system to create and track our part numbers and materials used to build our aircraft for Airbus. lots of new systems
nester [10:54]: also to look up and place engineering drawings in.
rw [10:56]: sold SFD paper .5% profit
ortrade [10:57]: Exit SKX -61$
nester [10:58]: got to get back to class. in and out this week good luck all
PA [10:58]: Sorry I thought it is a Stock Market Software, So you are an airospace engineer. It will really help you evaluate the market like a rocket engineers do.
lindo [10:59]: Nice to have a rocket scientist in our midst
lindo [10:59]: Out iflg up 8%
madriver [11:01]: nice lindo
lindo [11:02]:
lindo [11:02]: 8% sounds a lot better in this case than the actual $
rw [11:03]: std still moving up
Hyperion [11:04]: nester
fwguyus [11:06]: morning all
fwguyus [11:06]: vq running up
lindo [11:13]: got out of iflg too early
123 [11:14]: out 38. strike erx puts 5.50 +$484.00 stupid rally
madriver [11:17]: if you listen to CNBC you would think we're on the cusp of raging bull market!!!
Avalon [11:22]: Three days worth of rallies and that's what you get. I'm not convinced.
123 [11:26]: looks like we head up to 1150 range on s&p by charts....euro looks to rally short term energy looks to rally and tech looks to rally on charts.....no logic behind the move other than big dogs need to run up market to finish dumping their longs
lindo [11:27]: got to remember triple or quadruple witching. Probably can't make any judgment about market direction in general this week
ortrade [11:28]: TSM 200s@9.95$p
rw [11:29]: GAR has a book that is available for less than twenty dollars -= great information - hope everyone will buy it.... go to www.garsworld.com/low stakesPowerbooklaunch.htm
rw [11:30]: WeLCOME new trials..........GLad you are here........Be sure and go thru TUTORIALS any questions - we gladly will answer.
123 [11:30]: I have been watching massive sell orders mixed in with the buy spikes on erx (energy long etf) for days as the price continues up somehow
lindo [11:33]: RF at 7.25
hz [11:34]: Good Morning, I am Harry , probably the newest member, will log in hopefully every day, but will always be away from the screen, if you message me, I will respond some time later. thanks to all.
carr [11:35]: Good Morning hz welcome!
madriver [11:35]: I can't wait till BP announces it will delay or suspend it's dividend......look out below!!!!!
jim [11:35]: Welcome Harry
jim [11:36]: BP can go into the low 20's
madriver [11:39]: I agree Jim....I was looking at the options chain and that looks about where it is........I know 2 people who bought on friday thinking it was a great bargain.....maybe they will ultimately be right??
madriver [11:41]: Jolly old England will bail them out even through the UK is knee deep in debt....
Treacherous_Cretin [11:41]: no you and me will bail them out madriver
Treacherous_Cretin [11:42]: nobody knows the extent of Bernanke's currency swaps
madriver [11:42]: that would not surprise me either....nothing does anymore
Treacherous_Cretin [11:42]: we will also be bailing out scottish widows and orphans whose pensions are imploding because of BP
Treacherous_Cretin [11:42]: USA=bagholder on this
madriver [11:43]: we can't take care of our own yet we continue to help other helpless countries.......
Willie2 [11:45]: Yes Mad we buy there frendship
carr [11:46]: RINO International Corp up 10.03% to $13.64 06/14 11:46 AM
jim [11:50]: Mad I think BP will survive but it may also become a takeover target in the low 20's I am watching it very closely for investment at the right time
ortrade [11:51]: Exited GME -13.99$ earlier.
rw [11:52]: Morning HZ
jim [11:53]: BP's asset value for breakup will be in the 20's xdebt therefore I think takeoverl
ortrade [12:02]: Exit LULU -44$ Total loses for the day real money -118$ all posted entries and exits
Willie2 [12:05]: long YRCW .24
ortrade [12:06]: CROX entered 200@11.25$pe earlier
ortrade [12:06]: Form 200s@10.97$pe
ortrade [12:07]: Exit TSM -12$pe
ortrade [12:08]: ROSE 200@26.28$pe
ortrade [12:08]: This market is plagued with investors and Bozos hedge funds wont touch the morning shorts hence the losses.
rw [12:09]: was watching ROSE earlier ortradae
ortrade [12:10]: LULU 200@43.05$pe
jim [12:11]: spy seems to be holding steady above 110 may mean continued strenght for awhile
ortrade [12:12]: All longs I just took including ROSE rw would require SPX 500 to bounce of lower chanell trendline on 5 min
rw [12:13]: VITA long watcher
jim [12:13]: CVS to repurchase 2BB in shares
rw [12:13]: wsh did very well this morning ---forgot to post it
jim [12:15]: most of todays strenght is from the weak $ imo
ortrade [12:22]: Market showcases an inverse saucer.. I dont buy it..
ortrade [12:22]: on 5min chart on the indexes
ortrade [12:50]: STM 200@8.62$pe
jim [12:52]: Ortrade when you get a chance take a look at the daily UUP vs $SPX looks like a perfect inverse relationship
ortrade [12:53]: Exit LULU -54$pe
jim [12:58]: L FAZ 14.86
ortrade [12:59]: jim, at least as far is now concerned UUP does the opposite, question is whether it could be good leading indicator.
ortrade [12:59]: Exit ROSE -80$pe
jim [13:00]: good point I just used it a leading indicator for the faz trade we will see if it works
ortrade [13:00]: FAZ 400@14.93$pe
rko [13:02]: Big volume on EURO sell-off
ortrade [13:02]: Exit FAZ -32$pe
ortrade [13:03]: I noted the vol may not be sufficient on FAZ
ortrade [13:05]: PWER 200@7.27$pe
rko [13:08]: Another big tick down on the EURO
rko [13:08]: Hedge funds might be back from their lunch meeting
ortrade [13:12]: This market is direspecting whole and half price numbers and some other principles hedge funds are orthodox about.. my impression rko is the hedgies will re-short market systematically at higher levels..
rko [13:14]: I agree ortrade
ortrade [13:15]: IRF 200s@20.4$pe
Hyperion [13:16]: this is from a czech newspaper
Hyperion [13:16]: "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president."
"The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince."
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
Willie2 [13:18]: I had the same thought Hyperion but it was better said by you
ortrade [13:18]: ELNK 200@8.36$pe
rko [13:19]: Moody's downgraded Greece Govt bonds
Hyperion [13:19]: time to moive to costa rica ?
rko [13:19]: to Junk
rw [13:22]: Very well written hyperion -
nester [13:24]: SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Oil trimmed its advance and gold pared its losses Monday after Moody's Investors Service downgraded Greece's debt four notches to Ba1. Oil for August delivery, the most active contract, added 60 cents, or 0.8%, to $74.40 a barrel. Oil spent most of the day comfortably gaining close to 3%. Gold for August delivery, which had retreated more than $10 at times, lost $4.80, or 0.4%, to $1,225 an ounce.
ortrade [13:24]: Seems the main market makers concern is to hide the absence of shorts from traders using wide bars reversed the last minute like what they did on FAZ on the 5min chart.. nasty..
rw [13:28]: COP long watcher
ortrade [13:28]: FNSR 200@15.37$pe
jim [13:29]: out FAZ 14.87 even
ortrade [13:30]: EXPD 200@38.31$pe
madriver [13:32]: Pretty funny coming from some former communist nothing Country like the Czech Republic
ortrade [13:39]: MPWR 200@19$pe
ortrade [13:42]: STP 200@10.15$pe
ortrade [13:43]: LAMR 200@29.4$pe
ortrade [13:45]: FAST 200@52.64$pe
ortrade [13:51]: Exit FAST and LAMR -45$pe each.
Treacherous_Cretin [13:51]: covered BUCY at 52.77
Treacherous_Cretin [13:51]: Made money on FAZ long, DO short and BUCY short today. You can check them in paper trader
Treacherous_Cretin [13:52]: done for day
Treacherous_Cretin [13:52]: bye
ortrade [13:55]: AEO 200@13.52$pe
ortrade [13:58]: TBL 200@19.27$pe
ortrade [13:58]: correction TBL 200s@19.27$pe
ortrade [14:00]: Exit EXPD -40$pe
ortrade [14:01]: Exit MPWR -46$pe
ortrade [14:02]: Exit STP -40$pe
ortrade [14:03]: ATVI 200s@11.05$pe
ortrade [14:05]: Exit ELNK -14$pe
ortrade [14:06]: Exit PWER -24$pe
ortrade [14:06]: Today tried new startegy .. lol..
123 [14:07]: did it again sold my put options at bottom....still made money but price doubled since i posted sell earlier....still have july 28.80 erx puts swiming at 3.56 average entry
ortrade [14:07]: TII 200@17.84$pe
ortrade [14:07]: ELNK 200s@8.3$pe
ortrade [14:08]: BRKS 200s@7.47$pe
ortrade [14:14]: given the quadruple witching at the end of the week I believe there will be large directed volatility and may trading habits will not be followed this week.
ortrade [14:17]: I believe hedge funds will abstain from trading during this week as institutions reshufling positions make the hedge funds trading power obsolete.. I
ortrade [14:20]: ZRAN 200s@9.8$pe
iswing64 [14:23]: Filled on YHOO july 16 calls @ 0.31..but that may not be a good thing..lol
ortrade [14:23]: SRCL 200@63.6$pe
rw [14:30]: COP in and out 53.00 53.06
rw [14:31]: got out in time to avoid loss
ortrade [14:32]: FAZ 400s@15.15$pe
ortrade [14:33]: Added FAZ 400@15.21$pe
carr [14:35]: Swing YHOO announces earnings on July 19 the July calls expire on July 17 so if there are good earnings rumors you may do very well.
iswing64 [14:39]: Hey carr.. how ya been?
carr [14:40]: Been working on a project for the contest to help out so have not been around much how about you Swing are you making money?
iswing64 [14:41]: Only on FAZ options...lol
carr [14:42]: Money is money no matter how you make it :-) good for you!
iswing64 [14:42]: Hear from picker?
carr [14:43]: Yes he is not ready to come back right now, but said he would drop in and visit
iswing64 [14:44]: Oh good..maybe he will return.. not quite the same..
carr [14:45]: I know we had a lot more fun when he was here, I do miss his sense of humor, and his knowledge and experience
iswing64 [14:46]: Same here..hope he is doing well.
carr [14:47]: He is Swing. Also very busy at work.
iswing64 [14:48]: Glad to here that!!
iswing64 [14:48]: hear
carr [14:48]: :-)
iswing64 [14:48]: You making any money carr?
ortrade [14:48]: Exit FAZ 400 -60$pe
carr [14:49]: Not really, but my longs are going up.
ortrade [14:49]: Exit another 400 FAZ -44$pe
iswing64 [14:49]: Oh i meant to ask djia elliott wave forcast? anything good possible..near term?
carr [14:52]: The current 60 m elliott pattern on $INDU shows down for a bit, to around 10k then up for the wave 5.
iswing64 [14:54]: Ok thanks carr..
iswing64 [14:55]: I have that on my chart software..just haven't got around to checking it out.
iswing64 [14:57]: catch ya later carr..take care.
LEECO [14:58]: carr-did you ever edit that message that
LEECO [14:59]: I proposed to send to Mr. Knapp
carr [15:16]: Hey Andrew where have you been today?
Andrew [15:17]: Hi carr. I'm busy with some other stuff this week, so I expect not to be trading as much.
Andrew [15:18]: Yet again the market seems to be moving higher on diminishing volume, and there was another failure at the 200-day moving avg. again.
carr [15:18]: Good for the longs
ortrade [15:20]: FAZ 400@14.98$pe
Andrew [15:20]: I don't think either the longs or the shorts should be too confident with the recent price movement.
ortrade [15:21]: add to FAZ 400@15.02$pe
carr [15:21]: For me right now it is not about confidence, it is all about emptying the dog bag. LOL
Andrew [15:22]: Which companies do you still have?
LEECO [15:23]: carr-I am in same boat-w/seed/peix,gy,dac,pcx,snss, jci and some nbear ETF's
rw [15:25]: read good reports on Seed
LEECO [15:26]: rw-SEED is below $ 9
rw [15:27]: I know leeco - but reports of future were good - looked at stock research ---unless i am confusing it with something else.. hope not.. LOL
lindo [15:28]: I took one horrible bath on SEED
ortrade [15:28]: potential selloff now..
rw [15:28]: Sorry to hear that Lindo.
Andrew [15:28]: SEED might be better once it starts holding above 9.40 or so. There are lots of wicks above it on the daily.
rw [15:29]: I cut loss at less than 1% and do not keep trading stocks beyond the day so i have nothing in the bag........
rw [15:30]: buying COP if it gets to 53.00 even again -------
Andrew [15:30]: long FAZ 15.13
Andrew [15:32]: tripled up on FAZ 15.15
Andrew [15:32]: The financials have still been showing some relative weakness in the recent rally.
rw [15:36]: did not buy COP thank goodness at 53dollars
ortrade [15:37]: Exit CROX no gain/loss.
Andrew [15:37]: Good call on the selloff potential ortrade.
ortrade [15:38]: yeah, trouble till then lost today ~399$pe and 118$.. nasty
ortrade [15:39]: meant -118$
Gar [15:39]: Came around for the final 20 minutes.
ortrade [15:40]: hi Gar.
123 [15:41]: Gar I noticed my papertrader positions all disapeered.....no big deal but may be bug?
Gar [15:41]: Oddly, I see giant sell spikes in FXE (Euro ETF), I mean HUGE spikes. Explains the market downslide.
rko [15:41]: My papertrader's fixed Gar. Thanks
Gar [15:42]: 123, I ran a script that rebuilt everyone's balances correctly. I do not know why positions disappeared?
123 [15:42]: I just noticed today that positions were gone???
ortrade [15:43]: Gar, Can you please retore the previous sector classification. The current one has many subsectors (instead of sectors), it has few stocs in each and when Screens are applied to those sub-sectors we hardly get any signals. Thank you.
Andrew [15:43]: The volume is increasing a little bit on this selling but we should still end the day with disappointing volume.
Gar [15:44]: ortrade, now I don't know what to do. I had requests to break them down further. Now you think it is too many? What do I do?
ortrade [15:45]: Perhaps have sector clasification and subsector classification and checkmark which to use..
Gar [15:46]: That's too much major work for now. Perhaps I should just combined them so there are more sectors but not as many as this version.
ortrade [15:48]: I liked your previous classification I would apply a screen to sector with few hundered stocks and get nice signals for further screening.
LEECO [15:49]: Or you could put sectors as before then have an indentation of the sub-sectors under each major sector heading EX. Energy indent Oil & Gas--Oil & bGas Equipment -- Oil & Gas Exploration
Gar [15:49]: Well, I know, but I was receiving several requests to break them down into more groups. For example, all energy stocks were in "Basic Materials," but so was gold and metals.
Gar [15:50]: Leeco (and ordtrade), that kind of feature is MAJOR work. I really don't want to do any "sub groups." It has to be just a sector list...for now.
ortrade [15:50]: Sounds great Gar.
Andrew [15:52]: I liked Oracle II's ability to click on a sector and see which industries were in that sector, but maybe that interface was more difficult for people to learn.
LEECO [15:52]: OK I preer the many sectors- saves time looking at a lot of stocks not of interest
LEECO [15:52]: prefer nor preer
Gar [15:53]: Hard to please everyone.
Andrew [15:53]: Wow, the buying the last 15 minutes was sold into aggressively.
LEECO [15:54]: Are we goig to end in the red today?
Gar [15:54]: I noticed the bear/bull meter snapped lower about 50 points.
Gar [15:54]: If you think about it, there is no catalyst that should rally the market.
LEECO [15:55]: GAR-don't fret -you can't please everone-If some wants special features-do the3m for them at a price
rw [15:55]: Andrew - Leeco - I will be gone rest of week - please mention hello to new trials and also gar book if you all would............thanks
LEECO [15:55]: rw-have a good vacation with the missus
ortrade [15:56]: Exit IRF +46$pe
ortrade [15:56]: Exit AEO no gain /loss.
ortrade [15:57]: Exit TBL +62$pe
ortrade [15:57]: Exit ATVI +18$pe
ortrade [15:58]: Exit TII BRKS and ZRAN break even
ortrade [15:59]: Exit SRCL -34$pe and FORM +31$pe
ortrade [15:59]: Exit FAZ +291$pe
Andrew [15:59]: out FAZ +1.3%
wella04 [16:02]: hi
ortrade [16:02]: Gar, I built my trading around the large sectors classification. The small sectors makes trading from me very dificult from the reason I mentioned. For other people the sectors is more of a commodity they hardly use. The subsector classfication could be done at a later time if other traders insist.
LEECO [16:02]: nite all
fwguyus [16:02]: this market has been so tough...to trade..
fwguyus [16:03]: this market has been so tough..to trade..
Andrew [16:03]: Yeah I agree.
lindo [16:03]: Hope it gets easier
fwguyus [16:04]: i have a feeling its not with all the bad things going on..
Gar [16:04]: ortrade, what I think I should do for now is to combine them, so there is perhaps 15-20 groups vs. like 50 groups. For example, "Basic Materials" should not include oil, gas, gold and silver. Precious metals should be a seperate group from energy.
Andrew [16:05]: We've been range-bound in a pretty big range over the last month.
lindo [16:05]: Gar, that sounds like a good compromise
fwguyus [16:06]: does anyone her know how and what to buy into funds or any equities that are more long term safety nets..like gold funds..etc.
fwguyus [16:07]: Gar I dont understand how breaking up the catagories is going to help, when everyone here does not trade of fundamentals..
fwguyus [16:07]: or at least most of them..
ortrade [16:08]: Gar I have an excel work sheet that has the sectors sheets and contain the stock subsectors. I would like to email you before you make further changes to take a look if that classification would work.
Andrew [16:09]: fwguyus, for example you can look at the hot sectors and then find other stocks that could be lagging the leaders so can catch a broader move at a better price.
Gar [16:09]: fwguyus, has nothing to do with fundamentals. The sector list shows which groups are getting the action. The "ratings" are derived from money inflows and outflows. Nothing to do with fundamentals.
fwguyus [16:10]: got it..thks..
ortrade [16:10]: fwguyus, sector screening is very usefull in particular in the morning when considering gaps.
Gar [16:10]: ortrade, are there less categories in the spreadsheet you have? Right now, there should be a happy medium. I didn't like the wide, sweeping groups before, and now you have a point that there are too many.
ortrade [16:11]: Gar I believe it is something in between what we had before and what there is now.
madriver [16:25]: Any idea why AIG is up so much....short squeeze?
madriver [16:25]: I see not good news
madriver [16:25]: no
Andrew [16:29]: Probably just shorts covering after the tight consolidation the last 2 weeks.
Andrew [16:31]: There were lots of sellers from 37.00-38.00 as well.
ortrade [16:34]: Gar, In the case you still on the chat I emailed you the worksheet to admin@garsworld.com in xls (Excel 2003) and xlsx (2007) format. Let me know if you received the email and can open the files. Thank you.
Gar [16:36]: ortrade, can you re-mail it to garsworld@gmail.com?
ortrade [16:37]: will do.
ortrade [16:40]: email sent Gar.
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madriver [21:16]: BP has hired GS, Credit Suisse etc ............hmmmm
JayBird [23:27]: Tomorrow morning, three economic reports are scheduled to be released before the open. 1) Export Prices ex-ag (Consensus NA), 2) Import Prices ex-oil (Consensus NA), 3) and Empire Manufacturing Survey (Consensus 20.0).
Tomorrow before the open look for the following companies to report: BBY, CASY, and FDS.
JayBird [1:22]: Tomorrow morning, three economic reports are scheduled to be released before the open. 1) Export Prices ex-ag (Consensus NA), 2) Import Prices ex-oil (Consensus NA), 3) and Empire Manufacturing Survey (Consensus 20.0).
Tomorrow before the open look for the following companies to report: BBY, CASY, and FDS.
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