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Iswing64 [0:01]: LOL yes can get very wacky nowadays.
Andrew [0:02]: That 12:35-12:50 bar was also very scary looking. Was that when the debt downgrade was announced?
Iswing64 [0:03]: Yeah..read the news on cnbc...and more bad news on the way..scary stuff
Iswing64 [0:04]: Be ready to trade FAZ..LOL
Iswing64 [0:05]: Or any bear etf's
Andrew [0:05]: Yeah. The futures are pretty red right now.
Iswing64 [0:07]: About average for the last 3 hours..ive been watchin off/on.
Iswing64 [0:12]: Read on cnbc earlier today the ECB said to expect another 230 billion debt problem..YIKES!!
Andrew [0:14]: It's hard to comprehend how much money that is it's so huge.
Iswing64 [0:15]: Prolly take us down with them!!
Andrew [0:15]: I hope not.
Andrew [0:15]: But everything is pretty connected.
Iswing64 [0:16]: Yes it is..
Iswing64 [0:18]: Last i looked dollar rising..looking for chart..
Iswing64 [0:21]: How much lower can the euro go..wow
Andrew [0:21]: Over a very long investment time period there could be a great bargain in the euro soon. Maybe the pound would be safer though.
Iswing64 [0:26]: Do you think a large part of where we go from here will be more related to currency??
Iswing64 [0:26]: USD/EUR
Andrew [0:27]: I'm not sure. I've never taken more than an intro macro economics course.
Iswing64 [0:31]: Was there an etf for the usd? seems like there was..
Iswing64 [0:38]: Well i'm turnin in for the night..have a good night.
Iswing64 [0:38]: Hi jake..
Jake [0:39]: Hi
Andrew [0:40]: How have you been Jake?
Jake [0:41]: Good now. Had some shots in my lower back to cushion it and can now walk without a limp. Hope it last...lol
Andrew [0:41]: Great.
Andrew [0:42]: Do you think the market can head a lot higher this week?
Jake [0:42]: Yep... Getting a new hip towards the end of the month. After the rehab, I hope to be much better.
Jake [0:43]: Used to be a long distance runner. Wrecked my hips, back, and knees doing that, but I sure did enjoy it...lol
Andrew [0:44]: How long does the rehab take?
Jake [0:44]: Different for each individual, but I hope to be back in the saddle in a month. Doc says as much as 3 mos
Andrew [0:45]: Good luck!
Jake [0:45]: Thanks
Jake [0:47]: I need some luck on trading right now. Early last week canceled my buy on FBC because I was having a lot of med work done, now look at it.
Jake [0:48]: Additionally, I had already bought FBP and it was losing me money. I didn't want to add insult to injury...lol
Andrew [0:49]: It was just a reverse stock split - you didn't miss much.
Jake [0:49]: Ok, that explains the jump.
Andrew [0:50]: It was 1-for-10 so $5 = the old $0.50
Jake [0:50]: Ok
Andrew [0:51]: Those cheap financial companies seem to be making very large moves though the last few months.
Jake [0:51]: Didn't help FAZ to do that. All it did was to screw us who were enjoying some cheap good movement.
Andrew [0:52]: A lot of people here were trading ones like PCBC a lot.
Jake [0:52]: Yep, had some of that too.
Jake [0:53]: where are you?
Andrew [0:53]: I experimented a little bit with penny stocks for the first time, but I think unless there's extreme bullishness in the market, I'm going to stick to stocks over $5 for the most part.
Andrew [0:54]: I'm not appearing in the list?
Jake [0:54]: I look for breakouts each night. Sometimes they work, sometimes not.
Jake [0:54]: What list
Jake [0:55]: I meant what part of the country
Andrew [0:55]: Massachusetts
Jake [0:55]: Ok, both of us up late
Jake [0:55]: I'm in SC
JayBird [5:41]: 09:00 BoC rate decision
10:00 US May ISM Manufacturing, ISM Prices Paid, April Construction Spending
10:30 US May Dallas Fed Manufacturing Index
17:00 ABC Consumer Confidence
Earnings
After the Close: PSS, LGF, GAME, SNDA
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JayBird [5:43]: DOW futures -136
carr [7:41]: good morning karen, porti and all
karenbcz [7:41]: morning all !
karenbcz [7:41]: CARR: looks like everyone's "sleeping in". LOL!
karenbcz [7:42]: only 5 of us here this a.m.
karenbcz [7:42]: pre-market down huge!
carr [7:43]: hopefully not a sign for the rest of the day
carr [7:43]: normally nester is the first one here
carr [7:44]: morning Avalon
carr [7:46]: finally nester arrives good morning nester
nester [7:46]: lol... morning... running a bit late today
nester [7:47]: looking like a decent gap down day
Avalon [7:49]: Morning carr, all.
nester [7:49]: NEW YORK (AP) -- Stock futures tumbled Tuesday after the euro fell to a new four-year low.
Major U.S. indexes are set to resume their slide due to fresh concerns about the health of Europe's economic recovery. Stocks fell late Friday ahead of the long holiday weekend after Fitch Ratings cut its view on Spain's debt.
A slowdown in manufacturing in China is also worrying investors.
The Dow Jones industrial average fell 122 points Friday. Dow futures are down another 114 points early Monday.
nester [7:49]: PARIS (AP) -- World stocks fell Tuesday amid investor concern about the global economy as a report showed Chinese manufacturing slowed in May, and on continued fears about Europe's shaky government finances.
London's FTSE index was down over 110 points, or 2.13 percent, at 5077.86. The CAC 40 index of leading French shares was down more than 86 points, or 2.47 percent, at 3,420.99, while Germany's DAX dropped over 122 points, or 2.05 percent, to 5,841.87.
Shares in BP PLC plunged 13 percent to 429.2 pence ($6.20) on the London Stock Exchange. Because of a bank holiday, Tuesday was the first day of London trading after the oil company's failed attempt over the weekend to block the oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico.
BP said that costs for the spill have reached $990 million
nester [7:50]: SINGAPORE (AP) -- Oil prices tumbled to near $72 a barrel Tuesday in Asia as weakness in global stocks and the euro dragged on appetite for crude.
Benchmark crude for July delivery was down $1.51 at $72.46 a barrel at late afternoon Singapore time in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract last settled down 58 cents at $73.97 on Friday because markets in the U.S. were closed Monday for the Memorial Day holiday.
Crude traded as high as $75.17 a barrel in Europe on Monday.
nester [7:50]: WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economy trudges ahead yet debt dogs many Americans, stressing them out even as they firm up their own financial foundations.
There are new jobs produced but old worries persisting for people despite belt-tightening and boosted savings, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll.
About 46 percent of those surveyed say they're suffering from debt-related stress, and half of that group described their stress as "great deal" or "quite a bit." On the other hand, about 53 percent say they feel little or no stress at all.
nester [7:51]: SEOUL (Reuters) - The U.S. central bank's liquidity support was helpful in containing the 2008 financial crisis but it could have done more, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago President Charles Evans said on Tuesday.
"While the liquidity support we provided the economy was very helpful, it was clearly not enough," Evans, who is not a voting member of the U.S. interest rate-setting panel, said during a panel session at a seminar in Seoul.
"Given the huge resource gaps, and low and declining inflation, more monetary accommodation was appropriate," he added. He did not comment on the future policy of the Federal Reserve or on the economic situation.
nester [7:51]: FRANKFURT — Despite recent improvements in the health of European banks, they remain vulnerable to a daunting array of hazards that are expected to produce another round of sizable write-offs during the next couple of years, the European Central Bank said Monday, in a report that cataloged in alarming detail the problems facing the region’s financial institutions.
The challenges for banks in the 16-nation euro zone include exposure to a weakening commercial real estate market, hundreds of billions of euros in bad debts, economic problems in East European countries, and a potential collision between the banks’ own substantial refinancing needs and government demand for additional loans, the central bank said.
nester [7:52]: NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Among the companies whose shares are expected to see active trade in Tuesday's session are Morgan Stanley, Fifth Third Bancorp, AIG, and Oracle. The Nasdaq and NYSE markets are closed Monday in observance of Memorial Day.
jim [8:17]: morning all
nester [8:20]: morning jim
carr [8:21]: morning jim
jim [8:25]: Morning Carr, Nester hope you had a good weekend
nester [8:28]: it was good, thx for asking. hope yours was good also
LEECO [8:29]: Morning all-just came in from an hour of hoeing & gardening the veggies, & backwashing the pool-when I went out DOW future was -117
madriver [8:30]: morning all
madriver [8:31]: BP and RIG are getting clocked.......
LEECO [8:32]: The prediction I saw on the EWuro was $ 1.16-
LEECO [8:37]: Jake where are you going to get HIP done-joint replacement now is a piece of cake -skilled techniques-I have had moth knees done-came out of anethesia with a machine bending them back & forth so they did't get stiff-then physical therapy, mostly movement aginst resistance for about three weeks-That was 20years ago on one and ten years ago on other-better than the originals-AND THINK howmmuch better the techniques are now-LOL
kotarah [8:38]: 08:35
THC Tenet Healthcare: Bidding for Healthscope of Australia; potential recapitalization? - Stifel Nicolaus (5.72)Stifel Nicolaus notes, Dow Jones and Bloomberg are reporting that Tenet has made a non-binding bid of $1.6 bln for Healthscope, an Australian hospital operator. The co responded that it does not comment on "market rumors", upon firm's inquiry. There appears to be little strategic benefit in owning an Asian hospital company. The transaction may be a strong enough catalyst to enable Tenet to recapitalize its balance sheet. One of the media sources suggested the co may be financed under an OPCO/REIT structure, where the real estate assets were placed in a REIT.
carr [8:40]: morning Leeco and madriver
LEECO [8:41]: morning carr-saw you on Forum last evening-told you I was drinking a Canadian lemonade,
madriver [8:41]: good morning....
carr [8:41]: Leeco you should dring Canadian beer
carr [8:41]: drinking
madriver [8:42]: carr..what beer do you drink if you drink?
LEECO [8:42]: Lemonade with 2 fingers of Virgin Bourbon (101 proof)
madriver [8:42]: sounds good
madriver [8:43]: 101 proof .....strong stuff!!!!
carr [8:43]: mostly Molson Canadian
LEECO [8:43]: My favorite beer is HE BREW beer made in NY a very dark flavorable one
madriver [8:44]: LEECO....have to try that if I can find it!
LEECO [8:44]: I also like Molson and Newcastle Brown Ale-but really a 6 pack lasts me 2 weeks
madriver [8:45]: Haven't had Molson lately.....not really a beer drinker....don't really know good from bad
LEECO [8:45]: macd-I get the Virgin Bourbon in NC and it is as good as Wild Turket and inexpensive
madriver [8:46]: I mostly drink Corona......similiar to water.....
carr [8:47]: Corona has a very unique taste and is great with lime
madriver [8:47]: I tend to like rum but I'm going to try that LEECO
LEECO [8:47]: TRY micelob Ultra-light and only 2.7 grams of Carbohydrate/can
kotarah [8:49]: 08:49
SCANX Gapping downSelect financial related names trading lower following extended domestic holiday weekend and weakness in overseas trading: IRE -8.4%, AIB -6.8%, BBVA -5.1%, CS -3.8%, RDN -3.7%, STD -3.3%, NBG -3.3%, BCS -2.9%, AIG -2.9% (AIG to adhere to original AIA transaction terms), UBS -2.9%, RF -2.8%, GNW -2.8%, ING -2.8%, KEY -2.4%, C -1.5%, JPM -1.4%.
Select metals/mining stocks trading lower: SLT -6.0%, MT -4.4%, RTP -2.4%, TOT -2.2%, BHP -2.4%, BBL -1.6%.
Select oil/gas related names showing strength: BP -15.0% (plans to further enhance lower marine riser package containment system), RIG -8.2%, ATPG -7.9%, ESV -6.4%, APC -6.4%, CAM -3.9%, WFT -3.5%, DO -3.3%, BHI -2.9%, HAL -3.3%, NBR -2.8%, SLB -2.0%, CVX -1.1%.
Other news: ACGY -8.0% (trading ex dividend).
Analyst comments: BEAT -7.9% (downgraded to Sell from Hold at Citigroup), RGC -6.2% (downgraded to Neutral from Buy at Janney Montgomery Scott), BYD -2.8% (downgraded to Sell from Neutral at Janney Montgomery Scott), GLW -2.5% (downgraded to Neutral from Buy at Ticonderoga), S -1.9% (initiated with a Sell at BTIG).
madriver [8:50]: Carr....did you know Molson owned Rollling Rock for several years then they sold it.......since then the rolling rock brand has been sold and plant closed....they are making it somewhere but not at original location in Latrobe PA
LEECO [8:51]: macd-are you a Pennsy?
Willie2 [8:51]: Thats my choice of beer Leeco you can drink 6 of them compaired to one Bud
carr [8:51]: I did not know that. When I lived in California I used to drink Rolling Rock
madriver [8:52]: yes....western PA....
kotarah [9:00]: 09:00 ECONX The Bank of Canada increased its interest rate 25 bps to 0.50%, as expected; Canada becomes the first G-7 country to raise rates
kotarah [9:01]: 09:00 S&P futures vs fair value: -14.80. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -11.30.Stock futures have worked their way up from morning lows, but they still point to a weak start for the session. The euro has also worked its way up from its morning low of $1.2111, also a multimonth low, so that it now trades with a 1.0% loss at $1.2180. Amid the preference for safety, gold prices have climbed 1.1% to $1225.50 per ounce. However, oil prices have fallen 1.7% to $72.75 per barrel amid growth concerns.
LEECO [9:01]: mac-I'm originally from Philly-Drexel Grad 1941 Engineering
LEECO [9:02]: Premarket everything red except bear ETF's
madriver [9:03]: LEECO....where do you live now?
LEECO [9:04]: Richmond. VA just 1.6 miles outside the city limits
rw [9:07]: JNK (junk bond etf) should be good for 1% rise today - also PM usually bounces - Morning all.......also Jake -------I am also a long distance runner -------I am 73 - some minor back problems -
LEECO [9:09]: I have a relative (Retired Navy CAPT-Lawyer) who ran, and ruined his knees & back and has to wear a brace all the time (Age-48ish)-Swim don'trun
rw [9:09]: I hear you leeco - time to back off and maybe walk more - I do that now.......at 73
jim [9:11]: BP down over 13%
rw [9:14]: HP NBR on shore drillers should not do terrible due to the in water people having problems
rw [9:14]: oil drillers that is
rw [9:14]: JNK now 37.29 ask this one should wind up at lest 1% higher ----always does
LEECO [9:16]: My suggestion (who do I send it to?) I did this with a broken water main gushing in a ditch in 1948.---in this case-send a remote operated unmanned sub down-cut the pipe clean across-jack a valve over it with an 'O' ring and weld it to the pipe-ten close the valvle. Any critics?
kotarah [9:19]: 09:18 On The WiresThe Renewables Energy Group of Raser Technologies (RZ), announced it recently began drilling on its Lightning Dock project in New Mexico... Borders (BGP) and Aluratek announced an agreement to feature Aluratek's "Libre" eBook Reader Pro in Borders' lineup of eReaders. Pre-orders are now being taken at www.borders.com/libre with shipments to begin in early July. The Libre will be available in August for $119.99... Mad Catz Interactive (MCZ) announced that pursuant to an extension of its video/PC game accessories agreement with Activision Publishing (ATVI), it will produce officially branded controllers and accessories based on the upcoming Call of Duty: Black Ops videogame... CIRCOR International (CIR) subsidiary acquired the valves division of Mazda. Co anticipates this will be accretive to earnings on a GAAP basis in the first 12 months of combined operations... Timberline Resources Corporation (TLR) is pleased to announce that its shareholders have approved the plan of arrangement pursuant to which Timberline will acquire all of the outstanding common shares of Staccato Gold Resources... Ur-Energy (URG) received final permit approval for the construction and operation of UIC Class I injection wells for Ur-Energy's Lost Creek In-situ Recovery uranium project... Dow Corning, equally owned by The Dow Chemical Company (DOW) and Corning (GLW), will invest up to $13 million to expand its European capabilities to innovate with silicon-based materials and technologies... Onyx Pharmaceuticals (ONXX) initiates Phase 1 study of ONX 0912 in patients with advanced refractory or recurrent solid tumors.
jaws [9:21]: Tue Jun 1 09:16:00 EDT 2010 | Briefing.com
S&P futures vs fair value: -13.80. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -9.00. Stock futures for the Nasdaq have managed to slash their premarket losses, but futures for the broader S&P 500 still point to a sharp loss for the start of trade. The weakness is largely underpinned by continued weakness among markets overseas, where concerns about the fiscal health of many eurozone countries has led the euro to a new multiyear low against the greenback. Concerns over the continent's financial conditions certainly haven't been helped by word that the European Central Bank believes eurozone banks face further writedowns in the next 18 months. Meanwhile, weaker-than-expected data from China has called into question the country's growth prospects and led the Shanghai Composite down more than 3% during the course of the past two sessions -- the index is now only fractionally above its 52-week low. The possibility that China's growth may not be all that many have hoped has put pressure back on oil prices, which are currently down 1.7% to $72.70 per barrel. However, gold prices have climbed 1.0% to $1225 per ounce as many participants seek safety. Coming up at 10:00 AM ET are a couple of potential trading catalysts in the May ISM Manufacturing Index and April construction spending numbers.
Willie2 [9:21]: Leeco from the pictures ive seen looks like well casing pipe folded down over blow out valve and might not be enough straight pipe to do that procedure.
LEECO [9:23]: Thanx Willie2-just a page from experience-but I know there are a lot of better experts than I trying to do the fix
ortrade [9:23]: Good morning
Willie2 [9:25]: Wonder if freezing the blow out valve with liquid nitrogen would work????
LEECO [9:25]: AVIS -CARdown 11.56%
Hyperion [9:25]: might make it shatter lol
LEECO [9:26]: I can't imagine getting enough cryogenic N2 to freeze in all that mass of water
ortrade [9:27]: After making lower lows on daily indexes retraced to 10MA. Market is set today to utn with critical times for reversal/breakout 12.15 and 2pm..
ortrade [9:28]: correction: After making lower lows on daily indexes market retraced slightly to 10MA.
Iswing64 [9:31]: L DCTH @ 15.79
LEECO [9:36]: Look at Bear/Bull buckle way over o Bull side ??? any explanation???
madriver [9:37]: LEECO...I said the same thing last week then I saw GAR mention that it didn't seem to make much sense????
Andrew [9:41]: It probably has to due with those 2 huge up-days we've had recently and the fact that the overall market is still about 4% off its May lows.
Andrew [9:41]: due = do
LEECO [9:42]: Then it would appear that Gar will have to modift the software regarding the B/B belt
ortrade [9:43]: BRFS 200s@12.87$p
nester [9:44]: FAZ 15.10
ortrade [9:45]: SEED 200s@9.47$pe
jaws [9:45]: Bear/Bull just moved yellow
Iswing64 [9:45]: FAZ @ 15.13
Andrew [9:50]: There are a lot of mixed signals right now in What Works... Breakouts #1 and Breakdowns #2 for example.
Willie2 [9:54]: Im looking for a better anti virus program any suggestions my desk top running malware is compleatly froze up
Hyperion [9:56]: start out run spybot search and destroy
rw [9:56]: webroot has worked great for me
td [9:56]: Willie2 AVG is free and is good too
Andrew [9:56]: BP could be interesting as a bouncer if it starts holding above 38.00. It appears to be stabilizing somewhat.
Willie2 [9:57]: Thanks guys
rw [9:57]: peix not sure of it today
JayBird [9:57]: My computer tech says use Avast....and it's free.
madriver [9:58]: I have a problem investing in BP....not that you care....thought I'd just make that statement
nester [9:58]: JB - that is the same one that MoNk suggested. said it was good
Hyperion [9:59]: then run combofix
rw [9:59]: madriver ---bp scares me....but how could such a large hugh company go away and fall much lower ---------but their libality is unknown
ortrade [10:00]: AYI 200@40.38$p
nester [10:00]: swing - r u on ameritrade?
Andrew [10:00]: I just meant in terms of intraday.
madriver [10:01]: they are talking about repealing laws increasing their liability. anyone who doesn't think it's going to take a huge hit to there bottom line ...I have news for you!!!
Andrew [10:02]: Which laws?
Iswing64 [10:03]: NESTER..no why?
madriver [10:03]: I can't state the lasw specifically however I've been hearing and reading repealing of laws to increase their liablility. In addition, it wouldn't surprise me if their are criminal filings
Iswing64 [10:04]: go dcth
madriver [10:04]: Apparently, Transocean--RIG technically has 28million in liability however I've heard they would like to repeal and increase100 fold
nester [10:04]: the bid/ask have been lagging something horrible today. just seeing if you were having the same issues
Iswing64 [10:05]: no.bud not at all..
madriver [10:05]: I don't like what FAZ is doing
Iswing64 [10:06]: OUT FAZ small loss
Andrew [10:06]: Bear/Bull back green with bullish screens dominating What Works.
Iswing64 [10:06]: wow dcth rocket
madriver [10:06]: I got in too early ..
nester [10:07]: mad - neither do i. think i will bail soon and wait for a good sign
Andrew [10:08]: The market got a boost from a large increase in housing starts and better than expected manufacturing data.
nester [10:09]: out FAZ -0.3%
Andrew [10:10]: by housing starts, I mean the construction spending data. The analysts thought it would either be down -0.8% to just slightly positive by +0.5%, but it wound up being +2.7%.
nester [10:10]: anyone else having issues with Ameritrade? the price keeps showing proper yet the bid/ask is not moving. off and on since the opening
Andrew [10:11]: I noticed that a lot last week actually.
ortrade [10:11]: Exit AYI +68$pe
nester [10:12]: just started for me today. FAZ was dropping and the bid/ask was stuck 25cents higher for about 5 minutes
ortrade [10:12]: that was safe exit on AYI it will likely make it to 40.96
ortrade [10:13]: meant 41.09..
Andrew [10:15]: Today feels like it could turn into a solid green day.
ortrade [10:16]: Andrew, viz my post at 9.27am
Andrew [10:17]: If the bears are going to get back control, they probably need to do it very soon.
Andrew [10:17]: Why 12:15 and 2:00?
ortrade [10:19]: statement and briefings..
ortrade [10:21]: watch AYI it made it 50% fibs.. I anticipate it will go higher to 62% before any retracement..
Andrew [10:22]: long FAZ 15.05
Andrew [10:23]: added to FAZ 15.06
Andrew [10:24]: added to FAZ 15.07
ortrade [10:24]: while th utn is in disguise today the morning action did not indicate that the higher food chain entities were well aware of it.. I still expect some retracement along the way.. AYI just crossed the 68% fibs.. lol
ortrade [10:25]: Given my statement at 10.24 I still hold SEED and BRFS short positions..
Andrew [10:29]: out 2/3rds FAZ -0.4%
ortrade [10:29]: Nasdaq to hit pre weekend high pivot
Iswing64 [10:30]: L PWER 8.25
nester [10:30]: short FAZ 14.98
Andrew [10:31]: added back to FAZ 14.93
Andrew [10:32]: added to FAZ 14.92
Willie2 [10:33]: ortrade am trying to follow your fib retracement what time period are you using thanks
Andrew [10:33]: added to FAZ 14.90
ortrade [10:34]: for AYI I used 5min
Andrew [10:35]: added to FAZ 14.95
madriver [10:35]: I just don't believe the market has much more upside today simply because of too many unknowns right now........we'll see
ortrade [10:39]: On the market retracement I expect SEED and BRFS to drop.
nester [10:40]: out FAZ even
nester [10:40]: TXT short 20.57
ortrade [10:46]: the morning utn was mostly silent hand I believe and uninformed traders.. there was also a fraction of hedge funds it is why SEED and BRFS held well and not participated in the utn. If silent hand will try forcing market up with present high vol it will be too costly and it wont happen..
ortrade [10:49]: Exit BRFS no gain/loss.
Andrew [10:50]: short ATPG 9.75
nester [10:50]: FAZ 14.98
nester [10:53]: out TXT +0.6%
Andrew [10:54]: Does the market feel like it's doing less volume than it actually is, or is it just me?
nester [10:54]: it feels like it. i think i'm done after this FAZ attempt
nester [10:55]: keep seeing lots of false signals
rw [10:57]: Ortrade: what is or whom is "silent hand",?
Andrew [10:58]: added to ATPG short 9.74
ortrade [11:01]: the cash printer..
Andrew [11:04]: added to ATPG short 9.74
ortrade [11:04]: the deep SEED now not surprising - at least heading for the adaptive..
ortrade [11:04]: correction: the deep in SEED..
Andrew [11:07]: out 1/5th FAZ +1.1%
Andrew [11:10]: added to ATPG short 9.80
Andrew [11:10]: out half ATPG tiny gain
ortrade [11:11]: retracement on NASDAQ to hit 68% fibs on 5min
Andrew [11:12]: out another 1/5th FAZ +1.4%
ortrade [11:15]: Exit SEED +57$pe (inactivity stop)
Andrew [11:15]: out another 1/5th FAZ +8%
Andrew [11:15]: 1.8%
Andrew [11:16]: out rest of FAZ +2%
ortrade [11:16]: Total gains from morning posted trades +125$pe (200 shares per position)
Andrew [11:16]: long FAS 23.69
Andrew [11:17]: tripled up on FAS 23.71
Andrew [11:18]: out half ATPG +1%
ortrade [11:21]: PACR 200@8.19$pe
ortrade [11:22]: watch PACR..
ortrade [11:24]: My exit on PACR is ~8.43..
Andrew [11:25]: added back to ATPG short 9.70
Andrew [11:27]: added to ATPG short 9.65
ortrade [11:28]: SPG 200@85.16$pe
Andrew [11:29]: out 1/3rd FAS +1%
Andrew [11:30]: out 1/3rd ATPG +1.6%
ortrade [11:30]: I entered SPG and PACR since they are at good reversal market points..
ortrade [11:31]: Exit SPG +50$pe
ortrade [11:31]: target on PACR is 8.39$pe
ortrade [11:32]: PACR and SPG have good potential.. still I only scalp them..
Andrew [11:33]: out rest of FAS +0.75%
Andrew [11:33]: back in FAZ 15.10
Andrew [11:34]: tripled up on FAZ 15.11
ortrade [11:39]: watch SPG
ortrade [11:40]: UFI 400@3.96$pe
Andrew [11:43]: out another 1/3rd ATPG +2.3%
ortrade [11:43]: SKF 200$21.40$pe
Andrew [11:44]: out 1/3rd FAZ +1.3%
ortrade [11:46]: Exir PACR no gain/loss
madriver [11:46]: roll over time?
Andrew [11:46]: Possibly, though I'm not sure mid-day is the best time period for follow through.
Andrew [11:47]: I think I'm going to take profits on my shorts soon and then take a break until later in the afternoon.
ortrade [11:47]: PACR 400@8.16$pe
madriver [11:52]: The president talking might be enough to roll this thing
ortrade [11:54]: 12.15pm
Andrew [11:54]: What's he talking about now?
madriver [11:56]: spill
ortrade [11:56]: 12.15 is a statment to press likely on BP
ortrade [11:57]: Exit PACR -20$pe
Andrew [11:57]: out another 1/3rd FAZ +1.8%
Andrew [11:58]: out rest of ATPG +2.1%
ortrade [11:58]: Exit UFI -24$pe
Andrew [11:59]: I'm going to take a break - stopping out of rest of my FAZ at 15.08 (would be just a tiny loss)
madriver [12:00]: he rolled it....beautiful
broberts [12:00]: hello all
ortrade [12:01]: Exit SKF no gain/loss
broberts [12:03]: in hoc 1000sr 25.70
broberts [12:04]: bwen and hek...look at the t6rap
broberts [12:04]: t6rap =trap
nester [12:12]: out FAZ +2.1%
broberts [12:14]: hoc starting to bounce nicely as software showing
broberts [12:20]: out hoc 25.85 pr=$100
broberts [12:28]: anything interesting for anyone? a lot of low volume all I'm seeing
rw [12:29]: I hope some of you bought my two great long selections PM and JNK
rw [12:30]: Going to gym - back later...Good Trading to all......
rw [12:30]: did not mean to brag.
raymoney [12:30]: Hello everyone..
broberts [12:31]: hey ray
Treacherous_Cretin [12:33]: good afternoon ray
JayBird [12:36]: It's June....and raymoney and TC are back....smiles
LEECO [12:37]: Afternoon T_C glad you are rejoining us from time to time-can I help you in any way
Treacherous_Cretin [12:38]: Thanks Leeco. I have been getting lots of help
nester [12:46]: FAZ 15.16
nester [12:47]: hey TC how are you doing? glad to see you here
Treacherous_Cretin [12:49]: hanging in there I guess...how goes your trading?
nester [12:51]: decent. this is in a "no man's land" type of trading at times. throws signals then turns back. overall, last couple months i have been up
nester [12:52]: r u going to get back into trading soon?
Treacherous_Cretin [12:53]: I doubt it
nester [12:55]: well, i hope you do soon. i like the way you trade
Treacherous_Cretin [12:59]: I can't focus on the markets like I used to
Treacherous_Cretin [13:00]: haven't traded in almost a year and only looked at charts a little in the last two weeks
nester [13:07]: out FAZ +0.5%
Andrew [13:32]: Hi TC. How was your weekend?
Andrew [13:32]: got stopped out of rest of FAZ for a tiny loss
nester [13:35]: FAZ 14.98
Andrew [13:36]: short HLX 10.20
Andrew [13:37]: back short ATPG 9.26
LEECO [13:38]: OK Dow is up 74 yet PCX when I bought it Fri @ $17.19 theDow was lower than now but PCX is $16.09-no correlation?
Andrew [13:39]: The dow doesn't contain any coal companies Leeco.
Andrew [13:40]: You can track the coal sector by watching the KOL etf.
LEECO [13:42]: In the past I had seen the coal Cos. follow the dow up and down-but not today when I want to sell one.
Andrew [13:42]: The energy stocks seem to be doing their own thing recently.
Andrew [13:42]: Maybe it has something to do with the oil spill.
Andrew [13:45]: Has anyone seen picker304 recently?
LEECO [13:48]: No-but I have an E-mail address for him
Andrew [13:49]: short CAR 11.81
Andrew [13:50]: CAR seems to be struggling to find lots of buyers in the 11.80s
LEECO [13:51]: CAR was 10.80 in premarket thisAM
Andrew [13:52]: In terms of shorting it, I like how after it bounced on the big gap down this morning, it failed to be able to get past 12.00 convincingly (the same level it struggled with on Friday afternoon).
Andrew [13:54]: The buying volume in the 11.60s wasn't all that impressive earlier today either.
Andrew [13:59]: out ATPG +2.4%
Andrew [14:07]: back short ATPG 9.06
Andrew [14:09]: long S 4.87
nester [14:15]: out FAZ +1.8%
nester [14:17]: short TXT 20.32
Andrew [14:19]: added to S 4.85
madriver [14:27]: annoying
Iswing64 [14:32]: L SEED@ 9.33
Andrew [14:34]: added to ATPG short 9.12
Andrew [14:39]: added to ATPG short 9.14
rw [14:43]: has PICKER been here lately ----also Dr. Knight ----has he left? anyone know?
Andrew [14:43]: I haven't seen picker but Knight posted over the weekend.
rw [14:44]: Did Dr. Knight recommend any long buys Andrew?
madriver [14:44]: no..no see
Iswing64 [14:44]: Haven't seen picker at all rw?
rw [14:44]: Picker did a good job working on new people
Iswing64 [14:45]: Last i heard his pc had a virus..but that was over a week ago..
madriver [14:46]: is this thing going to break either way?
rw [14:46]: Thanks iswing64
Andrew [14:47]: The last I saw he had been long SEED and the financials and the Russell 2000 and had been taking profits.
rw [14:47]: what stocks was dr knight recommending last week - anyuone know.
rw [14:47]: thanks andrew
Andrew [14:49]: out HLX -0.3%
madriver [14:49]: don't know
madriver [14:52]: boy this is in a tight range
Andrew [14:53]: out S no gain/loss
knight [14:53]: yes RW
Andrew [14:53]: tiny gain actually, got a good fill
knight [14:53]: SEED will goes more than 15 $
rw [14:54]: Dr. Knight - I have been intermitent here -----wondered what you had recommended last week.......Andrew - cleared it up
Andrew [14:54]: out 1/3rd ATPG +1%
Andrew [14:57]: rw, have there not been too many trap doors today?
rw [14:57]: WELCOME to all new people on Stopvision Trials....Be sure and check out all the TABS - particuarily tutorials.......We are glad you are here
rw [14:58]: No very few Andrew.........today reminds me of a funeral with poor attendance
Andrew [14:58]: The volume really has been dropping off.
rw [15:02]: New Trials: Our Owner - Leader, GAR is usually here the last hour to answer questions and give his opinions of which are very timely.
nester [15:03]: short FAZ 15.22
Andrew [15:06]: out CAR +2%
Andrew [15:09]: long FAZ 15.27
nester [15:09]: out FAZ -0.3%
Andrew [15:09]: tripled up on FAZ 15.29
nester [15:10]: FAZ 15.28
Sandman [15:10]: How come Andrew & nester are playing against each other?
Iswing64 [15:10]: FAZ @ 15.29
nester [15:10]: i'm not now.... it looked like it would drop...
Andrew [15:11]: We aren't really Sandman, since we entered at different times when different things were happening.
Andrew [15:12]: What Works totally changed from earlier in the day and now bear screens are dominating.
Andrew [15:13]: Whereas earlier, Oversold had a rating of 80 or so.
Andrew [15:14]: added to FAZ 15.23
Andrew [15:14]: added to FAZ 15.19
nester [15:15]: out FAZ -0.4%
nester [15:15]: i was right. just turned too late
Andrew [15:17]: out half FAZ -0.22%
Andrew [15:18]: added back to FAZ 15.26
Andrew [15:19]: added to FAZ 15.30 (double position)
Andrew [15:20]: out another 1/3rd ATPG +2.1%
Andrew [15:21]: out 1/5th FAZ +1.3%
Sandman [15:22]: Watching FAZ & FAS there doesn't seem like much of a move. Good day to watch.
Andrew [15:23]: I should have been more patient with CAR since I had such a good/lucky entry with it.
Andrew [15:25]: long TLAB 8.18
Andrew [15:26]: TLAB is from the Traps tab
Andrew [15:27]: added to TLAB 8.19
rw [15:27]: JNK may be worth 1% NOW TO CLOSE
Andrew [15:29]: out another 1/5th FAZ +1%
Andrew [15:32]: out half TLAB +1.3%
Andrew [15:35]: out 2nd half TLAB +2%
Andrew [15:35]: added back to FAZ 15.36
Andrew [15:36]: added to FAZ 15.38
Andrew [15:39]: short TLAB 8.38
ortrade [15:39]: Just got back - the morning utn had no suppot and it was just a bubble - glad I did not spend time at some sideways market.. lol.. The indexes on the daily did till now an indecision bar.. right on the 10MA
Andrew [15:40]: added to TLAB short 8.35
ortrade [15:43]: DJI uptrended today while Nasdaq and SP 500 just found support close to the daily open..
Andrew [15:45]: out 1/5th FAZ +1.4%
Sandman [15:45]: FAZ new high for the day.
Andrew [15:45]: out rest of ATPG +3.1%
ortrade [15:46]: It will be interesting if DJI will drop to daily open last 15min..
Gar [15:46]: The bear-bull meter snapped to -100 on its rebalance. My goodness...
Sandman [15:47]: Andrew why did you get out of FAZ?
Andrew [15:47]: out another 1/5th FAZ +2%
Andrew [15:47]: I'm just scaling out since there are only 13 minutes left and I don't trust the close.
Sandman [15:47]: Andrew that's good.
Andrew [15:47]: out TLAB +1%
Andrew [15:48]: Wow, What Works is all red now too.
Gar [15:49]: None of this surprises me. The only thing that "surprised" me is why/how the Dow went green earlier. Market is clearly on a downtrend and has been for a few weeks now.
Andrew [15:49]: I think it was +70 earlier?
madriver [15:49]: yes
Gar [15:50]: Yes, which is super high on the "crazy meter."
Gar [15:51]: Man, I "sold" TZA in my papertrader earlier for (what I thought) was a fat gain...+3.49%. Now it is almost +8%.
Andrew [15:51]: There was a nice trap door/bouncer play in TLAB half an hour ago which had a 3% bounce.
Gar [15:52]: Weird...both Euro and US dollar both down.
Andrew [15:53]: out another 1/5th FAZ +2.5%
Gar [15:54]: What fascinates me about this is that the futures indicates this very level before the open. So the bulls dive in and jam everything up, it levitates all day, only to wind up where it should have been.
Sandman [15:55]: Andrew I too like FAZ but it's to close to the 0.00 line on the MACD histogram daily. That's why I'm just watching.
Andrew [15:55]: The VIX is back above 35
Gar [15:55]: I am almost now leaning towards a lunar bounce play (long).
nester [15:55]: out TXT short +3.1%
Andrew [15:56]: That's a good idea to do a lunar. The volume today actually wasn't too big compared to lots of days in May.
Gar [15:57]: I'm going to look quickly for some lunar candiates.
Gar [15:57]: candidates
Andrew [15:58]: out another 1/5th FAZ +3.4%
Gar [15:58]: LLTC looks good.
Andrew [15:58]: Whoa, -108 now in the dow
Andrew [15:59]: out rest of FAZ +4%
Sandman [15:59]: Good job Andrew!!!!!!!
Andrew [16:00]: You were right Sandmand that I probably should have held more of it for longer.
Andrew [16:01]: Those recent short squeeze spikes into the close last week were fresh in my mind though.
Sandman [16:02]: I knew when it started to make new highs after 3:46 that it was on the move.
Andrew [16:03]: The volume really intensified in the last 15 minutes too with all that selling.
fwguyus [20:39]: did anyone trade HAL today?
rw [22:33]: No fungus
Iswing64 [22:46]: Fungus..lol for shame rw.
Jake [22:55]: Hi guys, check out JSDA (Jones Soda) had it on my watch list for today and didn't get in. Looks like it might go again tomorrow.
Iswing64 [23:00]: wow nice moove there jake.Daily RSI reading is up there..wish i caught that today.
Jake [23:00]: No, I missed it. Never got in
Jake [23:02]: I didn't take it seriously because it was only on my macd crossing hit list. I normally look for break-outs and it didn't qualify.
Iswing64 [23:05]: Did you see the past price on that in 2007??
Jake [23:07]: Very Impressive. However, look at FBC if you want to dazzle...lol
Iswing64 [23:07]: Not that it means much but i does have a macd cross i think weekly..
Iswing64 [23:07]: Yes saw that one too,,wow..ouch
Jake [23:08]: Glad I didn't have my eggs in that basket a few years ago....whew!
Iswing64 [23:09]: lol..a cramer stock..
Iswing64 [23:10]: I remember him saying buy,buy,buy.on jones soda..
Iswing64 [23:10]: moore like goodbye
Jake [23:11]: Sounds like it. I dumped my broker several years ago after he lost me 30 k in a few days. I thought that I couldn't do that bad on my worst day. He said that think in the long run. I said that if he couldn't make me 15% or better each year, then I didn't need him.
Jake [23:12]: Best thing to do with Cramer is to watch his show and go short at the end of the next day on his picks....lol
Iswing64 [23:13]: I hear ya man..my folks lost 50k with their broker..(EURO DOLLARS) They fired him of course.
Iswing64 [23:14]: You got that right!!
Jake [23:14]: Looking at these for tomorrow too: STKL, RPC, AKRX, VIFL, and HYC
Iswing64 [23:16]: Are you more of a swing trader jake? Or intraday day trader.
Jake [23:18]: Was more of an options trader until this year. This year has cost me much with the whip saws that it has hit me with. Now having to day trade to make ends meet.
Iswing64 [23:23]: Good watchlist there jake a couple of those need some buyers.Funny ya know i never daytraded until i came here..got the bug from the forum i guess
Iswing64 [23:23]: Now its hard for me to hold overnight!!
Iswing64 [23:25]: MACD cross a great lead indicator in any time frame..or macd histogram
Jake [23:25]: Understand. Right now is not a good time to hold anything. I don't like it, but am forced to do what works right now. Love to get back in the way it was a couple of years ago.
Jake [23:26]: Agree with the macd; however, I put a couple of other indicators with it to make me feel comfortable with it.
Iswing64 [23:27]: I hear that jake..just before the fat finger day i had quite a few trades in trending stocks..traded in and out of them for months
Iswing64 [23:28]: Agree..jake//what indicators do you prefer?
Jake [23:30]: On swing trading, I like the %R Williams to hit near 0 , then a few days later to have the price macd to cross up and have the 7 ma cross the 30 ma. At that crossing, it is normally a good hit and you'll do well.
Iswing64 [23:33]: Interesting ma combo..my basic set up is about the same but i like 13ema cross up and over 20 sma..and throw in parabolic sar singnal..and thats sbout it.
Iswing64 [23:34]: for longs anyway
Iswing64 [23:35]: but macd normaly catches my eye first
Jake [23:35]: I use that setup for options. Can do the reverse on shorts. Most of the time I don't bail unless I have at least 100% on the trade. The last two years has made me re-evaluate...lol
Iswing64 [23:35]: lol
Jake [23:36]: We've had a weird ride up. None of it makes sense.
Iswing64 [23:38]: Well..yes..but it's been a house of cards i think quite a few knew that..just a matter of when.
Iswing64 [23:38]: Ww gotta be very careful
Iswing64 [23:39]: we
Jake [23:39]: My last option trade that I held to my 100% rule was MS (Morgan Stanley) Had the trade at 85% profit. Was holding on for 100%. Got up one morning and heard the sell deal and I lost everything before the market opened. Don't stick to that rule anymore...lol
Iswing64 [23:41]: lol..I know... holding faz overnight...and dcth..not feeling so good about it.
Iswing64 [23:41]: Day trade faz here and there lately..but it's a tough one to trade
Jake [23:42]: I think you are safe with FAZ. Faz might dip down, but it sure looks like it will hit 18 soon.
Iswing64 [23:43]: Hard to argue with how it looks jake hope your right!!
Jake [23:45]: Right now, FAZ is consolidating, but the market is looking like it will move down. It might take a few days, but I believe it will go down. I'm not really happy about that...lol. I'm holding some banking stock...lol
Iswing64 [23:48]: Yes ihad some BAC last week changed my mind.. took a small loss on that one
Iswing64 [23:50]: some smaller banks were good trades not too long ago..
Jake [23:50]: SDS, TYP, and FAZ all look like they will move up; however, they are in consolidation right now and they could move the other way, but my gut says all move up.
Jake [23:50]: yes, had some fun with those, but now they are flondering.
Muschnick [23:50]: Hi Guys...Beginner here looking for some basic guidance.....What suggestions or trends do you suggest I watch to start off....I am hoping this software and forum can teach me the ropes...loaded question I know, but figured I would throw it out there
Iswing64 [23:51]: Yes SDS ,SSO are good places to hide at times..lol
Iswing64 [23:53]: Hi Muschnick have you gone through the tutorials tab yet?? lots to learn and a good place to start.
Jake [23:54]: I don't like long names, so I'll call you nick. Well nick, take some time to study and never belive what you learned today will last. The stock market and trading it is dynamic and your approach will need to change with it. Take the study course for stock vision first. Then ask for more references from some of the guys here. A lot of knowledge here on this site.
Muschnick [23:54]: Just found that....Thanks....I will start there....I appreciate the response!
Iswing64 [23:55]: After your have a grasp on gars trading methods their are many who trade during the day.. feel free to ask them.
Jake [23:55]: spend some money on training. this site is full of information and the guys that trade here have a lot of knowledge. It is well worth the piddly sum for life time membership.
Iswing64 [23:57]: Oh nick..their is also a paper trade tab here as well to test with..Please take the time to practce with that when ready.
Muschnick [23:57]: Thanks guys! I have been doing some basic trading for years but not really via trends so I am excited to see how this goes.....I have a lot to learn :)
Jake [23:58]: We all do...lol
Iswing64 [23:58]: It never ends nick..lol
Muschnick [23:59]: Thats for sure! I sure wish I didn't have a day job!
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