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nester [7:33]: ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Tens of thousands of outraged Greeks took to the streets Wednesday to protest harsh new spending cuts aimed at saving their country from bankruptcy, as workers walked off the job in a 24-hour nationwide general strike.
Clashes broke out the northern city of Thessaloniki and in the capital, where demonstrators chanting "thieves, thieves" attempted to break through a riot police cordon guarding Parliament and chased the ceremonial guards away from the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in front of the building. Police responded with volleys of tear gas and stun grenades.
nester [7:33]: NEW YORK (AP) -- Stock futures dipped Wednesday, a day after major indexes posted their biggest losses in months.
European markets were mixed as investors remain cautious about whether a $144 billion aid package for Greece will help stem the growing debt crisis. German Chancellor Angela Merkel asked her country's lawmakers to rush the approval of Germany's $29.3 billion share of the Greek rescue program.
nester [7:34]: LONDON (AP) -- World markets continued to fall Wednesday, particularly in Asia, as investors worried that Europe's debt crisis would spread, as Greece braced itself for another wave of strikes.
In Europe, the FTSE 100 index of leading British shares was down 13.04 points, or 0.3 percent, at 5,397.14 while Germany's DAX fell 7.95 points, or 0.1 percent, at 5,998.91. The CAC-40 in France was 2.02 points, or 0.1 percent, lower at 3,687.27.
Earlier in Asia, a number of markets slid as investors responded to the sharp declines recorded Tuesdsay in Europe and the U.S. -- Hong Kong's Hang Seng index closed 435.51 points, or 2.1 percent, lower at 20,327.54.
nester [7:34]: SINGAPORE (AP) -- Oil prices fell to near $82 a barrel Wednesday in Asia after a report showed U.S. crude supplies rose more than expected last week.
Benchmark crude for June delivery was down 52 cents to $82.22 a barrel at late afternoon Singapore time in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
The June contract fell $3.45, or 4 percent, to settle at $82.74 on Tuesday on investor fears a $144 billion bailout for Greece won't keep the debt crisis from spreading to other European countries.
nester [7:34]: WASHINGTON (AP) -- A tentative agreement in hand, Democrats and Republicans still face an array of hurdles and uncertain timing over a Senate bill that would rein in financial institutions.
While Democrats agreed to jettison a $50 billion fund to liquidate large, failing firms, disputes over consumer protections, Federal Reserve oversight and regulation of complex securities are for the moment beyond compromise. Democrats and Republicans were preparing to fight those issues out on the Senate floor.
nester [7:35]: Here are 5 stocks added to the Zacks #5 Rank ("strong sell") List today:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Zacks-5-Rank-Additions-for-zacks-783132161.html?x=0
nester [7:36]: Here are 5 stocks added to the Zacks #1 Rank ("strong buy") List today:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Zacks-1-Rank-Additions-for-zacks-2688381868.html?x=0&.v=1
nester [7:37]: SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Among the companies whose shares are expected to see active trade in Wednesday's session are Time Warner Inc., CBS Corp. and Prudential Financial Inc.
karenbcz [7:44]: You guys missed the excitement AFTERHOURS last nite ... ITMN down 79%!! IT was unbelievable!
karenbcz [7:45]: Check chat archive from last nite. I posted all the action!
Sandman [7:57]: Good morning karenbca and nester.
Sandman [7:57]: bcz not bca
nester [7:58]: morning Sandman...
karenbcz [7:58]: basically, here's what happened .. ITMN closed @ $45.44 ... then afterhours gapped down to $9.46!!
karenbcz [7:58]: OMG!! LOOK!! it's gonna gap down AGAIN!!
karenbcz [7:59]: ITMN $45.44 -------------->>>>>> $9.46
karenbcz [8:00]: Maybe it'll go to $1.oo today .. within my price range. LOL!
karenbcz [8:00]: It's @ $10.oo now.
karenbcz [8:00]: in PRE-MARKET.
karenbcz [8:01]: ONE MILLION shrs. traded already 2 minutes into pre-market. Last nite in afterhours = over EIGHTEEN MILLION shrs traded!
LEECO [8:07]: Goo Morning nesterr,sandman, karen, and I do mean Goo-sticky Market=-Burning Greek Bank will hurt and the Bounce we expected last nite occurred after hours last nite This AN ??? Any comments?
karenbcz [8:07]: FAS must've split
Sandman [8:07]: nester do you ever follow Zacks recomendation?
Sandman [8:08]: Good morning LEECO
nester [8:08]: morning sir
nester [8:09]: Sandman - haven't really tracked them. i always like seeing where they believe the action is going to be. sometimes they are good to watch and trade
flower2bi [8:09]: good morning all. dow was bad yesterday hope things pick up 2day need to make some$$$
karenbcz [8:09]: Proshares and Direxion have all split or Reverse split their ETFs. I wonder if that's a "sign"????
Sandman [8:11]: Do they give a notice of there splits or is it all of a sudden?
picker304 [8:11]: Good morning all
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nester [8:12]: morning pick
karenbcz [8:12]: Sand: they all give notice.
Sandman [8:12]: good morning picker304
LEECO [8:12]: morning picker-are we going to bounce back from yesterday or more downside?
jim [8:14]: .Morning all lots of early birds this morning
Sandman [8:14]: Hi jim
karenbcz [8:14]: Jim: daRn right ... after last nite's action .. IMTN down 80% afterhours.
karenbcz [8:15]: I posted minute-by-minute action in yesterday's chat archive.
karenbcz [8:16]: And it's gonna do another round today IMTN $45.44 -----> $10.oo
jim [8:16]: Wow I just looked at IMTN
karenbcz [8:16]: JIM: It was CRAZY last nite ... ITMN gapped down to $9.46 ... down 80%!
karenbcz [8:17]: sorry typo meant ITMN
jim [8:18]: Morning sand
nester [8:19]: MYGN may be a good gap play
LEECO [8:20]: morning jim
jim [8:20]: Morning Leeco
jim [8:20]: Nester MYGN looks good
carr [8:22]: Good Morning StockVision
nester [8:22]: also like KERX
Sandman [8:22]: morning carr
carr [8:22]: morning to my friends jim karen Leeco nester picker Sandman and all
nester [8:23]: morning carr
LEECO [8:23]: morning carr-Looking at futures & premarket looks like more downside-Bear ETF's up and bull etf and Stocks down.
carr [8:23]: not another good day for longs
jim [8:24]: Piper Jaffray downgrades Myriad Genetics (Nasdaq: MYGN) from Overweight to Neutral. Price target lowered from $41 to $18. Piper analyst says, "Management lowered F2010 expectations and now anticipates revenue in the $360M-$365M range (was $381.5) and EPS of $1,30-$1.35 (was $1.50). We would note a 4Q10 tax adjustment accounts for $0.03-$0.05 of the EPS cut. MYGN shares traded down to $18.67 after hours and given the uncertainty on when Myriad's lab testing trends will improve, we anticipate limited near-term share price appreciation from these levels. Thus, we are downgrading the stock to Neutral." To see all the upgrades/downgrades on shares of MYGN, visit our Analyst Ratings page. Myriad Genetics, Inc. is a healthcare company focused on the development and marketing of molecular diagnostic products.
Sandman [8:24]: good morning Willie2
jim [8:24]: Morning Carr
jim [8:24]: L PCBC 1.61
LEECO [8:29]: FAS down over 2% after what appears to be a 3 foe 1 nsplitbut no news on its site
karenbcz [8:38]: LEECO?
LEECO [8:40]: karen -OK ??
karenbcz [8:44]: LEE: Earlier I mentioned that DIrexion and Proshares Reverse split their inverse ETF and split the bull ones. Maybe they know something???
karenbcz [8:45]: All these Hedge Funds have HFTC (high-frequency trading computer) with algoritms that compute where the markt's going.
LEECO [8:45]: If they do I don't know what itnis?
karenbcz [8:45]: excuse the typos ... cheap keyboard "made in china".
LEECO [8:46]: Excuse my typos cheap education made in Phila engineering college
karenbcz [8:46]: lol!
karenbcz [8:47]: FBP is DOWN MORE!
LEECO [8:48]: knight is very knowledgeable-I don't know howm he does mitbut he said yesterdaySTEC was going down and it is premarket
ortrade [8:48]: Good morning
carr [8:48]: anyone going to give ITMN a try in pre?
carr [8:49]: morning ortrade
majour [8:49]: morning ortrade
karenbcz [8:49]: everybody and their mother will be in ITMN this a.m.
LEECO [8:49]: morning ortrade
karenbcz [8:49]: lol!
jim [8:49]: L IMTN 10.30
karenbcz [8:50]: 3 million shrs traded already ... in pre-market!
karenbcz [8:50]: Last nite in afterhours it dropped to $9.46!!
ortrade [8:50]: hi carr, majour, Leeco jim, sandman, nester and all.
jim [8:50]: I think it will go over $11 today
jim [8:50]: Morning Ortrade
karenbcz [8:51]: JIM: last nite in afterhours ... ITMn went from 9.46 to 11.70!!
karenbcz [8:52]: (see last nite's archive ... I posted minute-by-minute action) :>)
karenbcz [8:52]: I think so many people will be buying ITMN, it won't drop that low again.
LEECO [8:52]: morning jim
ortrade [8:52]: looking now on the daily on the indexes. Last retracement we had started 1/20/2010 and lasted approx 20days
carr [8:53]: I will give it a shot long IMTN 10.17
LEECO [8:54]: Just got a confirm from E-trade-JAS did a 3 for 1 split overnite
kotarah [8:54]: Gapping downIn reaction to disappointing earnings/guidance: MYGN -23.8% (also announced plan to repurchase $100 mln of common stock; downgraded to Market Perform from Outperform at JMP Securities, downgraded to Neutral from Buy at Piper Jaffray), UWBK -15.0%, GRMN -13.1%, CETV -9.2% (light volume), TNDM -8.8%, CRAY -8.7%, USU -7.7% (also updated status of its centrifuge project and announced that lead cascade testing program is successfully underway), TRLG -5.3%, RJET -4.8%, FRPT -4.3%, PAR -3.9%, STO -3.5%, FEIC -3.1% (light volume), NWSA -2.6% (also downgraded to Neutral from Overweight at JP Morgan), DBTK -2.4% (also downgraded to Hold from Buy at Lazard Capital, downgraded to Neutral from Buy at MKM Partners), SONS -2.4% (light volume), WBMD -2.4% (downgraded to Hold from Buy at Canaccord), PAR -2.1% (also downgraded to Market Perform from Outperform at Morgan Keegan).
Select financial related names showing weakness: BBVA -5.0%, IRE -3.8%, DB -3.1%, BCS -2.8%, CS -2.6%, GNW -2.7%, UBS -2.6%, FITB -2.5%, HIG -2.4%, MS -2.2%, LYG -2.1%, ING -2.0%, C -1.6%, USB -1.5%, STD -1.3%, AIG -1.2%.
kotarah [8:55]: SCANX Gapping downIn reaction to disappointing earnings/guidance: MYGN -23.8% (also announced plan to repurchase $100 mln of common stock; downgraded to Market Perform from Outperform at JMP Securities, downgraded to Neutral from Buy at Piper Jaffray), UWBK -15.0%, GRMN -13.1%, CETV -9.2% (light volume), TNDM -8.8%, CRAY -8.7%, USU -7.7% (also updated status of its centrifuge project and announced that lead cascade testing program is successfully underway), TRLG -5.3%, RJET -4.8%, FRPT -4.3%, PAR -3.9%, STO -3.5%, FEIC -3.1% (light volume), NWSA -2.6% (also downgraded to Neutral from Overweight at JP Morgan), DBTK -2.4% (also downgraded to Hold from Buy at Lazard Capital, downgraded to Neutral from Buy at MKM Partners), SONS -2.4% (light volume), WBMD -2.4% (downgraded to Hold from Buy at Canaccord), PAR -2.1% (also downgraded to Market Perform from Outperform at Morgan Keegan).
Select financial related names showing weakness: BBVA -5.0%, IRE -3.8%, DB -3.1%, BCS -2.8%, CS -2.6%, GNW -2.7%, UBS -2.6%, FITB -2.5%, HIG -2.4%, MS -2.2%, LYG -2.1%, ING -2.0%, C -1.6%, USB -1.5%, STD -1.3%, AIG -1.2%.
Select oil/gas related names trading lower: REP -4.6%, RDS.A -3.9% (trading ex dividend), PBR -2.5%, TOT -2.0%, E -1.5%, SLB -1.5%.
Select large cap pharma/drug related names seeing early weakness: GSK -2.0% (trading ex dividend), NVS -1.7%, AZN -1.6%, SNY -1.4%.
Other news: ITMN -77.0% (receives FDA complete response letter on Esbriet (Pirfenidone) NDA; downgraded to Perform from Outperform at Oppenheimer, downgraded to Neutral from Overweight at JP Morgan, downgraded to Hold from Buy at Canaccord, downgraded to Market Perform from Outperform at JMP Securities, downgraded to Market Perform from Outperform at Wells Fargo), ALXA -8.2% (files $75 mixed securities shelf offering), KERX -6.0% (still checking), ISRG -5.6% (still checking), BPOP -3.2% (Popular to convert depositary shares into common stock), WLP -1.5% (still checking).
carr [8:55]: Leeco I think you meant FAS
karenbcz [8:56]: NBG gonna gap down
nester [8:58]: FAZ up 60 cents
ortrade [8:58]: reports and more reports today and tomorrow. critical times today briefings/remarks at 12 and 1.30pm
LEECO [9:00]: carr -right FAS told youmy typing is bad
carr [9:01]: Leeco maybe you just have the same keyboard as karen
karenbcz [9:02]: junk "made in china".
JayBird [9:02]: Many major overseas markets continue to move lower
Dollar continues to climb against competing currencies
ADP Employment Report shows 32,000 jobs were added to private payrolls during April -- the consensus had called for an addition of 30,000
rw [9:03]: QUESTION - I have stockvision on a seperate computer ---it takes up entire screen ----i would like chat seperate ---I can not reduce size of main screen -----any comments please
rw [9:03]: Morning KIarenbcz
carr [9:04]: rw just click detach chat and you can make it any size you want
carr [9:04]: by the way you can also re-size the main SV screen as well
Andrew [9:04]: Good morning.
LEECO [9:04]: I am downloading premarket stocks and my sheet looks like I got wounded and bled all over it!!!
Hank [9:04]: Morning everybody.
LEECO [9:05]: morning rw-I left off the good itisnowgoo
LEECO [9:05]: morning hank
LEECO [9:05]: morning andrew
rw [9:05]: morning COlonel LEeco, Hank, carr, andrew Jim
majour [9:05]: morning Hank
ortrade [9:05]: morning Andrew and Hank
jim [9:06]: Morning RW, Hank
majour [9:06]: morning Andrew
rw [9:06]: CARR I detach chat but there is no room for it on screen to have stockvision stocks and chat up at same time
picker304 [9:06]: Welcome new and trial users
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Hank [9:07]: HNSN 2.74/2.8359 3.5% 04/30 part 1
carr [9:08]: rw if you grab a corner or side top or bottom ov the screen you should be able to size both screens to anything you want
jim [9:08]: RW you need 2 screens one for chat and one sv connected to the same computer
karenbcz [9:09]: Yes, RW. You need TWO monitors.
karenbcz [9:09]: on same computer
Hank [9:09]: HNSN 2.76/2.83 2.8% 05/03 part 2
LEECO [9:09]: rw you need 2 computers with 2 monitors on ea
jim [9:09]: I have an additional computer with 2 screens for my trading account and charting
rw [9:09]: i have 3 monitors leeco and two computers ---I agree getting another one
rw [9:10]: have 27inch 19 and 17
karenbcz [9:10]: RW: oops no you don't. I just realized I'm typing in chat and I've got Stockvision on the SAME monitor. LOL! duhhhhh!
jaws [9:10]: Wed May 5 09:05:00 EDT 2010 | Briefing.com
S&P futures vs fair value: -9.20. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -18.30. U.S. equity futures remain relatively weak, but markets in Europe aren’t in much better shape as Germany’s DAX drops to a 0.7% loss amid widespread weakness. Deutsche Bank (DB) is the heaviest drag on the broader bourse at the moment. Shares of DB are down nearly 3% to trade below their 200-day average on the DAX. In France, the CAC is off by 1.3%. GDF Suez has led declining issues to a near 6-to-1 edge over advancers. Britain’s FTSE has fallen to a 1.0% loss. Royal Dutch Shell (RDS.A) is currently one of the weakest names, but BP Plc (BP) has shown strength. However, credit analysts at Moody’s recently revised their outlook on BP’s ratings to negative. Credit analysts at Moody's also put Portugal's Aa2 ratings on review for possible downgrade. Yields on Portugal’s debt had already climbed ahead of the announcement as global participants remain concerned about the fiscal health of many European countries. Such concerns have also taken the euro below the 1.3 level against the U.S. dollar for the first time in one year. In Asia, Japan’s Nikkei remains closed, but Hong Kong’s Hang Seng sank 2.1% as 41 of its 43 components retreated into the red. HSBC (HBC) was among the heaviest drags, due to the stock’s weight in the market and its near 2% loss. Hong Kong Electric and CLP Holdings were the only two names to stage gains. Mainland China’s Shanghai Composite staged a 0.8% gain as Air China led advancing issues to a near 8-to-1 advantage over decliners
jaws [9:11]: Apostrophes come out looking very strange in the above.
carr [9:12]: jaws I have the same problem with my news feed
karenbcz [9:12]: OMG!!! PCBC down 9%!!!
karenbcz [9:12]: Folks this is gonna get UGLY!
Andrew [9:12]: FAS near 30.80 looks like a good price.
LEECO [9:13]: According to SV thereis not a green sector and bear/bull moved more left
karenbcz [9:13]: BLOODBATH TODAY!
karenbcz [9:14]: BLOOD IN THE STREETS!
rw [9:14]: Note: gap downs: I will wait till the make a SECOND low before maybe jumping in.....Scared to get in to early
Andrew [9:14]: XLF has pulled all the way back to its resistance level from October
karenbcz [9:15]: TSUNAMI PEOPLE!!
Andrew [9:15]: With this large gap down I'm definitely thinking long this morning.
Andrew [9:16]: ITMN could be a good short
jaws [9:16]: I wouldn't consider a long until SP-500 1150 or so.
karenbcz [9:17]: JAWS: this market is going DOWN bigtime!
karenbcz [9:18]: AVALANCHE!
karenbcz [9:18]: MON going to $58.oo!
ortrade [9:18]: As to "from now on" market behavior the critical issue is to asses correctly the chance of persistance or reversal in the trading frame..
karenbcz [9:19]: I'm screwed!
jaws [9:19]: karen, I agree. But, looking for some sort of bounce around SP 1150
karenbcz [9:19]: I think Lloyd Blankfein "pulled the plug" on the markets.
carr [9:20]: Don' get caught up in panic selling
sshroff100 [9:20]: how to trade in extendad hr with e-trade?
rw [9:20]: SEED sure is down more
karenbcz [9:21]: RW: I'm telling you ... BLOODBATH TODAY!
rw [9:21]: Right Karen but as Mr.
sshroff100 [9:21]: vly look good for 2%
Andrew [9:21]: MON has an unfilled gap at 56.00 from 2007, but that could be a stretch.
karenbcz [9:21]: SSHR: pre-market trading closes @ 9:15 am.
rw [9:21]: Carr said - not to get caught in panic selling....
jaws [9:21]: In Etrade you can trade through ARCA extended hours.
jim [9:22]: agree dont get caught in panic selling
karenbcz [9:22]: Oh. Sorry .. didn't realize that.
sshroff100 [9:23]: thank karenhay small bank vly look good
ortrade [9:23]: Many so called trading opportunities are hooks. Since the market fishes in quantities it does not pull the fish out of the water right away.. not until sufficient fishes are caught in the hook and cannot distinguish the pain of a small loss. The fishes are pulled slowly from market in the hope of catching more fishes on the way..
LEECO [9:23]: sshroff-Enter your trade but don'tuseAUTO pick a Market to tradevin.
Andrew [9:24]: Over the past 12 months or so the panic sellers have been wrong every single time. The long term bears were very wrong over the past 12 months unless they took relatively quick profits as well.
jaws [9:24]: QID still trading in premarket.
carr [9:24]: Hey Andrew good morning
Andrew [9:24]: Hi Carr
karenbcz [9:24]: SSHR: I am wayyyy under water. Not buying anything. I couldn't even buy ITMN last nite afterhours ... If this is the end of bull market, I will definately have to find a job! LOL!
picker304 [9:25]: Never thought about this. Wonder if ratio between Gap up and Gap down might give indication of market direction. If so many more gap downs than gap ups. Makes sense?
jaws [9:25]: karen - there are plenty of bear ETFs.
karenbcz [9:25]: PICK of course!
jaws [9:25]: I'm long QID right now
Andrew [9:26]: I doubt that would be too effective since a lot of gap down days finish positive and a lot of gap up days finish negative in certain markets.
karenbcz [9:26]: JAWS; I have NO cash to spare. I have to draw the line somewhere. I'm done.
picker304 [9:26]: Karen Sv only 10% of total though but still might tell us we'll just wait and see
karenbcz [9:27]: Look at KERX
picker304 [9:27]: Yes Andrew but it tells the buying vs selling in pre don't know just curious
Andrew [9:29]: Oh for pre-market direction, just look at where SPY is trading.
Andrew [9:29]: And that eMiniFutures number above.
ortrade [9:29]: if you dont read the paper you are uninformed, if you read it you are misinformed. Mark Twain
karenbcz [9:29]: ORT: LOL!
Andrew [9:30]: I like that quote.
ortrade [9:30]: pity Twain is not amongst us..
jim [9:30]: Thxs orttrade
LEECO [9:31]: STEC goig down likethe Titanic
Andrew [9:32]: short ITMN 10.28
Andrew [9:32]: long FAS 31.39
knight [9:33]: i told you so leeco yesterday
Andrew [9:35]: long STEC 12.76
Andrew [9:35]: added to FAS 30.84
knight [9:35]: a panic selling mode is on
knight [9:36]: faz 13
Hank [9:37]: SEED 8.11 short
Andrew [9:37]: added to STEC 12.67
Andrew [9:37]: added to FAS 30.90
Andrew [9:38]: out STEC -1.1%
majour [9:39]: L DAN 12.02
Andrew [9:39]: out ITMN +3.2%
Andrew [9:41]: long ITMN 9.94
nester [9:41]: short SQNM 5.68
LEECO [9:41]: Knight nin my 08:28 post I acknowledged that on STEC-but I ask What told you that?
Andrew [9:41]: out ITMN -0.7%
Andrew [9:42]: back short ITMN 9.82
knight [9:42]: add seed 7,9
rw [9:43]: inand out of bby to quik to post good stock to trade today
LEECO [9:44]: what were you entry &exit $ rw and at what times?
Andrew [9:45]: I wonder if some investors in ITMN are going to have margin calls that will add to the selling pressure today.
ortrade [9:45]: AMMD 200s@20.33$p
jim [9:46]: out PCBC 1.67 +3%
knight [9:46]: after the rain come the sun....
karenbcz [9:46]: Damn it! I bought ITMn @ 9.98.
Andrew [9:46]: added to ITMN short 10.07
knight [9:47]: i hope it's congress man who are shorting the market...
Andrew [9:47]: ITMN is all over the place right now
Andrew [9:47]: out half ITMN -0.55%
jim [9:47]: L ICO 4.41
knight [9:48]: .... and after try to blame others for their shit
karenbcz [9:48]: Knight: exactly!
karenbcz [9:49]: Knight: bunch of clowns!
knight [9:49]: when money is their king --- such things will continue
majour [9:50]: out DAN from 12.02 to 12.4 +3.2%
karenbcz [9:50]: whew!!! ITMN going UP!
Andrew [9:50]: added to ITMN short 10.21
Bryce [9:50]: After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's License to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have to go home and come back later. The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'. So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair. She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me' and she processed my Social Security application. When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at the Social Security office..She said, 'You should have dropped your pants. You might have gotten disability, too.'
Hank [9:50]: Q 5.32
LEECO [9:50]: knight what info guided you on STEC prediction?
rw [9:50]: leeco 43.16 sold 43.35
karenbcz [9:50]: I'm gonna get out of ITMN @ $11.oo
jim [9:51]: out ICO 4.47 +1.5%
knight [9:51]: the trend leeco
rw [9:51]: Pulling and praying for you Karen itmn up up up
karenbcz [9:52]: RW: This is sick! WHen I can't STOP myself from buying a stock!
Andrew [9:52]: out ITMN -1.1%
LEECO [9:52]: Thanks rw goodtrade congrats
Andrew [9:52]: long ITMN 10.23
rw [9:53]: Karen: You are a trader and you will prevail.,........Stay with your convictions.
knight [9:53]: it's clear that instutitions want to bring the market keep hammering about the greece debt for more that a month always saying the same speech
Andrew [9:53]: added to ITMN 10.28
jim [9:53]: Karen have sell in at 10.89 for IMTN
jim [9:53]: meant ITMN
Andrew [9:54]: doubled up on FAS 31.25
ortrade [9:55]: D 200@42.18$pe
whoopsie [9:55]: Guys/Gals, i'm new to trading on US stock, am just looking around for free live price data if there is any available out there. Could someone kindly point me in the right direction
Andrew [9:56]: out half ITMN +2.3%
whoopsie [9:56]: (sorry to interrupt your trading!)
LEECO [9:56]: rw-Did you use the HG to determine entry & exit-I'm trying to do that with FAZ-so far not entry time
Andrew [9:56]: tripled up on FAS 31.48
karenbcz [9:57]: WHOOPSIE: Freestockcharts.com
karenbcz [9:57]: Whoopsie: or ThinkorSwim
bobCa44 [9:57]: whoopsie try google finance, it's close to real time
djalecc [9:57]: @whoopsie - google does free live data but not live volume, spend the money on StockVision mate, because without volume your buying blind :o/
rw [9:57]: Yes Leeco --looked at chart but jumped quicker than confirmation
ortrade [9:57]: ED 200@45.33$pe
Andrew [9:57]: out 1/3rd FAS +1.5%
karenbcz [9:58]: peix
karenbcz [9:58]: sorry ... wrong monitor
whoopsie [9:58]: thanks guys, yes would have needed volume too
whoopsie [9:58]: thanks
LEECO [9:58]: rw-FAZ now 12.82 with histogram downing & HG just turning
jim [9:59]: L HERO 3.72
whoopsie [9:59]: free stock charts don't show you sell/buy
Andrew [9:59]: The market is almost back to our low from yesterday before the buying surge at the end of the day.
karenbcz [9:59]: Whoop: Download THinkorSwim
whoopsie [10:00]: thanks Karen
nester [10:00]: out SQNM -1%
karenbcz [10:00]: Whoop: or you can get from your brokerage account.
Andrew [10:00]: out 2nd half ITMN +1.5%
whoopsie [10:00]: friendly bunch :), hope you all make plenty today while I paper trade!
Andrew [10:00]: short ITMN 10.43
whoopsie [10:01]: yeah am in the UK, so they won't give stuff out like that
karenbcz [10:02]: Whoop: you can't get volume from your brokerage account??? That's weird.
ortrade [10:02]: Exit ED -32$pe
Andrew [10:02]: added to ITMN short 10.39
jim [10:02]: L ICO 4.56
Andrew [10:03]: out another 1/3rd FAS +2%
Andrew [10:03]: out ITMN -1.2%
Andrew [10:04]: long ITMN 10.57
Andrew [10:04]: added ot ITMN 10.60
nester [10:05]: KERX 6.32
LEECO [10:07]: In FAZ @ 10:06 @ $ $12.80
Andrew [10:08]: out ITMN +1%
karenbcz [10:08]: JIM: ITMN longs loookin' gooooooooooooood!! $$$
Andrew [10:09]: out rest of FAS +2.3%
jim [10:09]: Yes raising my sell to 11
Andrew [10:09]: long FAZ 12.79
Andrew [10:10]: doubled up on FAZ 12.84
karenbcz [10:10]: Knight?
karenbcz [10:11]: PCBC FLYING!!!
Andrew [10:11]: back short ITMN 10.70
karenbcz [10:11]: damn it! I bought the wrong bank!
Andrew [10:12]: out ITMN -0.92%
karenbcz [10:14]: PCBC running
karenbcz [10:14]: PCBC - trying to get to $1.80
Andrew [10:14]: back short ITMN 10.99
karenbcz [10:15]: OUT ITMN W $11.00
karenbcz [10:16]: JIM??? You're out ... @ $11.oo :>)
Andrew [10:17]: out ITMN +2.55%
Andrew [10:17]: long ITMN 10.74
Andrew [10:18]: tripled up on FAZ 12.75
ortrade [10:19]: PNW 200@37.65$pe
Andrew [10:21]: out 2/3rds FAZ -0.65%
karenbcz [10:22]: gees! Look @ $SPX!!
ortrade [10:22]: ED 200@45.39$pe
Andrew [10:22]: added to FAZ 12.66
karenbcz [10:24]: Lordy!! PCBC!!
karenbcz [10:24]: FBP
Andrew [10:24]: out ITMN -0.2%
Andrew [10:25]: Someone's computer program is producing a lot of bad prints.
Andrew [10:26]: added to FAZ 12.71
ortrade [10:26]: Exit D -30$pe
karenbcz [10:27]: Geesh PCBC .. no high is too high! LOL!
ortrade [10:27]: Exit AMMD -54$pe
karenbcz [10:28]: FBp - typo
ortrade [10:29]: I was testing today some principles from volume trade analysis that is reading price volume tape (from TradeGuider). Till now 100% losses
karenbcz [10:29]: Andrew you can short PCBC :>)
Andrew [10:30]: I think I'd want to get at least 1.93 on it so I could have an easier out
knight [10:30]: take profit pcbc 1,5 to 1,92
knight [10:31]: take profit seed 7,9 to 8,12
karenbcz [10:31]: AND: it did hit 1.95 .. went so fast, I missed it.
ortrade [10:31]: Exit ED -34$pe
Andrew [10:32]: short RDN 12.03
knight [10:33]: i like FBP now
Andrew [10:33]: short LDK 7.24
Andrew [10:34]: short PCBC 1.93
Andrew [10:35]: out PCBC -1%
Andrew [10:36]: back short PCBC 1.94
karenbcz [10:36]: KNIGHT: glad you like FBP here ... still holding @ $1.96.
Andrew [10:37]: added to PCBC 1.99
Andrew [10:39]: out half PCBC +2.28%
ortrade [10:40]: AEE 200s@25.51
karenbcz [10:40]: I'm HATING FBP
Andrew [10:41]: out 2/3rds FAZ +0.39%
Andrew [10:41]: out LDK -0.82%
Andrew [10:41]: our RDN -0.1%
ortrade [10:42]: Exit AEE -10$pe
Andrew [10:42]: added back to FAZ 12.66
ortrade [10:43]: AEE 200s@25.58$pe
Andrew [10:44]: added to FAZ 12.55
Hank [10:45]: HNSN 2.70
ortrade [10:45]: AMMD 200@29.32$pe
Andrew [10:46]: out 2/3rds FAZ -0.83%
jim [10:46]: out ITMN a little bit ago 11 thanks karen
Andrew [10:46]: added back to FAZ 12.46
jim [10:46]: test
Andrew [10:47]: added to FAZ 12.46
Andrew [10:47]: out rest of PCBC +4.33%
djalecc [10:49]: Does anyone know why CRBC is not in SV ?
Andrew [10:50]: I think its price was too low the last time the master list was updated.
Andrew [10:50]: In March it was trading below $1
djalecc [10:51]: thanks Andrew :-)
jim [10:52]: out portion ICO 4.68 +3%
Andrew [10:53]: short ITMN 10.75
jim [10:54]: out portion HERO 3.81 +2%
ortrade [10:55]: Exit PNW -62$pe
karenbcz [10:55]: Andrew - you can short SNV :>)
ortrade [10:56]: RIGL 200s@7.70pe$
Andrew [10:56]: out FAZ -0.57%, out ITMN +2.6%
ortrade [10:57]: BCRX 2007.86$pe breaking out
Andrew [10:58]: SNV looks a little bit too much like an absolute bottom on the daily chart.
karenbcz [10:59]: BCRX looks like it's ready to go down from here.
Andrew [10:59]: long FAZ 12.42
Andrew [11:00]: added to FAZ 12.46 and 12.47
Andrew [11:01]: I'm still kind of bearish b/c SPY failed to make it above 117.50 (or even go up and test that key level)
jim [11:03]: Nester you watching PCBC its about to go through R2
ortrade [11:07]: today I am totaly clueless as to what the market or stocks will do. I traded with and against stock news and market has been doing excatly the oposite..
Andrew [11:07]: out 2/3rds FAZ +1.5%
jim [11:09]: out a portion PCBC 2.09 +3%
nester [11:10]: PCBC @ 2.02
jim [11:10]: out portion PCBC 2.14 +4%
ortrade [11:11]: THOR 200s@39.75$pe
nester [11:12]: jim - couldn't get my sell order in quick enough to get that spike...
jim [11:13]: there will be another one
Andrew [11:13]: added back to FAZ 12.57
jim [11:14]: Nester volume is dropping take your 4%
nester [11:16]: only + 3.2%
jim [11:16]: good trade Nester
ortrade [11:16]: PCBC 200s@2.07$pe
nester [11:17]: i got to get out of those meetings... missed that entire run up. hope you got a lot out of it
Andrew [11:17]: added to FAZ 12.58
jim [11:17]: I did ok my best trade of the day about 20k shares average 3%
nester [11:18]: great.
knight [11:18]: take profit FCPC 1,55 to 2,07 part 2
karenbcz [11:18]: Has anyone here ever used Worden's Stockfinder?
jim [11:18]: not me
knight [11:18]: FBP looking good for a jump
karenbcz [11:19]: re: FBP .. yeah, right .. been waiting since Monday. :>(
karenbcz [11:19]: 'bout to put me to sleep.
karenbcz [11:20]: FBP - oh! I see it FINALLY moved 0.02 cents.
Andrew [11:20]: out 2/3rds FAZ -0.1%
ortrade [11:22]: kinight, good call on FBP
karenbcz [11:22]: FBP - there she goes! Finally!
ortrade [11:25]: Exit PCBC -17$pe
nberman [11:26]: I use stockfinder
karenbcz [11:27]: Nberman: How does SF find bottoms?
nester [11:27]: jim - you think we are going to get another run up on it?
Andrew [11:27]: added back to FAZ 12.51
karenbcz [11:28]: Nberman: I'm thinking of going to their seminar thiis week-end.
nberman [11:28]: How does SF find bottoms? When? After the fact, before the fact, during?
Andrew [11:28]: tripled up on FAZ 12.52
ortrade [11:29]: During these big gap downs on the indexes on the open the number of stocks that gap up are very few. Interestingly when these reach critical levels early and have good news these are true positives and the move higher. When the market gaps up the fraction of false positives is very large.
jim [11:29]: out last piece PCBC 2.17 +4%
jim [11:29]: Nester yes I have a buy in at 2.08 for another run
ortrade [11:29]: FBP 200s@1.95$pe
karenbcz [11:29]: Nberman: I understand it does LIVE sorts. I'm not interested in "after-the fact".
nberman [11:30]: Worden products, to me, are really a great value.
jim [11:31]: Nberman details on pricing?
karenbcz [11:31]: Okay ... I'll go to the seminar ... maybe someone can answer my question.
Andrew [11:32]: There's a downward sloping trendline from yesterday on SPY serving as resistance... connect the highs of the candles from 10:25-10:30am yesterday and 3:55-4:00pm yesterday. We've sold down from the same line twice now today.
nberman [11:32]: SF does do live sorts, actually, it screens on the fly. You take a watchlist (all stocks, or something smaller) and then you use various filters to have it show which ones are currently meeting whatever you've specified. Take a list of stocks that I prefer, over $5.00 and over 500,000 daily volume and make a list. Then, say, have it find those (using GAR's MACD method as an example) that have just finished (as of yesterday's close) the second up day crossing the zero line on MACD and, say, are at a five day high on volume. All day long it will sit there showing you which stocks are meeting those criteria. (Obviously, you can make all kinds of screens and filters.)
karenbcz [11:33]: JIM: I briefly had a sub to stockfinder, but everytime I call support, no one knew how to do the sorts. It was very annoying.
jim [11:34]: how does the pricing work?
nberman [11:34]: Worden pricing is pretty cheap. I think for end of day TC2000 it's $250 a year or something, and for platinum, the real time, it's like $1,200 a year (I'm not sure, but it's easy enough at www.worden.com) and you can subscribe monthly, or there are deals for annually and two years. Then, they throw in Stockfinder for next to nothing on top of that (like $100 more a year or something relatively nominal.)
djalecc [11:36]: pah! google down! :-/
ortrade [11:36]: AMMD keeps going up..
nberman [11:37]: Actually, when I look at the worden site, the end of day for both Telechart and StockFinder is $30.00 and $40 a month, respectively. The real time for both is $100 a month, $1,000 a year and $1,800 for two years.
Hank [11:37]: SBSA 1.96/2.19 12% 05/04
djalecc [11:37]: PCBC keeps rolling with massive new volume!
knight [11:37]: i like SEED now
ortrade [11:39]: Exit FBP =10$pe
moby [11:40]: nberman: Gar is working on a powerscan version of SV as we speak. Soon you will be able in realtime scan for any combination of most indictors.
nberman [11:41]: There are so many scans out there you can make yourself nuts.
ortrade [11:41]: DPZ 200@14.66$pe
jim [11:41]: L PCBC 2.09
Andrew [11:42]: short PCBC 2.08
nester [11:42]: jim - goin to wait. my chart still shows down
Andrew [11:42]: out FAZ tiny loss
ortrade [11:42]: POR 200@20.32pe breaking out
Andrew [11:43]: PCBC looks like it is wicking back through its 50-day moving average on the daily.
karenbcz [11:43]: FBP - now we're rockin'!! $$$
ortrade [11:43]: FBP 200@2.03$pe
Andrew [11:43]: added to PCBC short 2.09
Andrew [11:44]: PCBC might still bounce off its 10-period moving average here, but the volume on the bounce currently isn't good.
jim [11:45]: agree the vol is looking crappy
Andrew [11:45]: I'm only looking for a move from 2.08 down to about 2.00
jim [11:46]: ok I give I need chart reading lessons
nester [11:46]: think you'll get that
karenbcz [11:46]: JIM - you mean volume on FBP???
Andrew [11:46]: out PCBC -0.72%
Andrew [11:46]: That's not the action you want to see when you're short, lol
jim [11:47]: out PCBC 2.11 +1%
jim [11:47]: Karen no I was watching PCBC
Hank [11:47]: SBSA 2.08
Andrew [11:48]: back short PCBC 2.10
karenbcz [11:48]: FBP is going back to $2.12 GUARANTEE it!
Andrew [11:48]: I think that boost in PCBC was just from the market surging to highs.
knight [11:49]: they talk about a buyout rumor for FBP
karenbcz [11:49]: they're rotating banks ... NEXT .. FBP!!
karenbcz [11:50]: buyout? got URL?
ortrade [11:50]: PCBC 200@2.09$pe
Andrew [11:50]: out PCBC -0.57%
Andrew [11:50]: I don't like anything short anymore.
Andrew [11:51]: I think I'm all done for the day. I'm happy with my morning. Good luck with your trades.
Hank [11:52]: HNSN 2.70/2.76 2%
karenbcz [11:53]: http://www.reuters.com/article/idCASGE6430IP20100504?rpc=44
Hank [11:54]: HNSN 2.76
karenbcz [11:54]: IF Bank of Nova Scotia buys FBP, then I'm holding this to $3.oo.
ortrade [11:56]: Exit AMMD +104$pe
ortrade [11:59]: Exit THOR +40$pe
Iswing64 [12:00]: Nester/Jim...you guys still in pcbc?
knight [12:00]: take profit pcbc 1,65 to 2,15 part 3
nester [12:00]: i'm not. waiting for the 5 min chart to confirm a buy
knight [12:01]: seed looking good now
jim [12:01]: Swing I have a small piece holding for 2.16
knight [12:01]: with volume....
Iswing64 [12:01]: ok..
ortrade [12:02]: PPL 200@24.78$pe
nester [12:02]: you going to play?
Iswing64 [12:02]: I'm gonna bee out ithink in a min or two
ortrade [12:02]: Exit PCBC +4$pe
jim [12:02]: Nester what do watch for on the 5 min chart?
knight [12:03]: take profit from FAZ 13 to 12,15 part 1
nester [12:03]: right now, the macd still red aroon also going down
Iswing64 [12:04]: holding..
Iswing64 [12:05]: may run higher..if we get past this
nester [12:05]: trap doors on USB
jim [12:06]: out last piece PCBC 2.16 +3%
nester [12:06]: your doing well with that today. what do you watch for?
jim [12:08]: we'll I just follow you
nester [12:08]: blame me then... right?
jim [12:09]: on PCBC I have been using a 1 min chart
jim [12:09]: yes it's all you fault
jim [12:09]: but today I will buy lunch
nester [12:10]: great... ocean side place i hope...
jim [12:10]: just let me know when your coming west
nester [12:11]: i will... fly into LAX
jim [12:11]: yep will be happy to pick you up anytime
nester [12:12]: thx. let you know. we need to get out of here for a while. drivin me nuts.
jim [12:13]: yep I understand used to be up to my eyeballs in corporate stuff
jim [12:15]: going for coffee
nester [12:15]: k.
carr [12:15]: moby I was not seeing anything
nester [12:17]: PCBC 2.21
carr [12:18]: moby chat does not seem to be working email me at gandjcarr@earthlink.net
ortrade [12:22]: Exit FBP -12$pe
rw [12:24]: test
karenbcz [12:27]: ORT: -12$pe ... what does that mean?
ortrade [12:28]: -12 dollars loss paper and experimental. Experimental refers to new stuff I am testing now and does not enter in my total gains/loss..
knight [12:28]: add fbp 1,99
karenbcz [12:30]: ORT: everytime I see PCBC chart, I THINK I'm looking at FBP. lol!
ortrade [12:32]: Exit BCRX -14$pe
ortrade [12:33]: karen these financials are not my cup of tea, I enter them for the sport.. lol..
karenbcz [12:33]: OMG! Here's one I missed .. another BANK ... FPBI
karenbcz [12:33]: oh! volume too low ... would've never come up on my radar.
karenbcz [12:34]: Now, that's something to consider ... are stocks trading at < 100K worth considering ... or too dangerous?
karenbcz [12:35]: ORT: Here's my experiement ... trade the BANKS/Finance only. So far, so good. $$$$
karenbcz [12:36]: ORT; I got buy signal on SNV last nite. Look what it did today.
ortrade [12:36]: EXIT DPZ -15$pe
ortrade [12:39]: SNV 200@2.97$pe stop on 10MA on 5min chart.
karenbcz [12:39]: ORT; That's Y I"m intersted in Stockfinder ... want to scan these in REALTIME ... not just have to go from chart to chart every second.
LEECO [12:40]: RW-the HG & Histogram both indicated entry when I bought FAZ but it never went up more than 6 cents from that
karenbcz [12:41]: ORT: if I'd had real-time sort on this stuff, .... Man!! mega $$$$$
karenbcz [12:41]: ORT: unfortunately, by the time I scan thru all the charts. 50% of the time it's too late.
rw [12:41]: Leeco: hg does give some false signals as every set up does.....THat is why I cut loss usually at .5%..
nester [12:42]: stopped out PCBC +5%
LEECO [12:42]: rw-Right on-now DOW is going red -sotry againb LOL (Meaning Lots o Luck)
Iswing64 [12:43]: Out pcbc@ 2.33
jim [12:43]: That was expensive coffee I missed PCBCI
Iswing64 [12:44]: see you guys later...bye
LEECO [12:44]: rw on FAZ -HG price went up thru 3 day, 8daty&20 nday SMA just now
Sandman [12:44]: SBSA so far I'm up 34.13% Not bad for a down market.
nester [12:44]: c'ya swing
rw [12:45]: leeco not sure it is good to use hg on faz fas as they hold a lot of stocks ---need to ask nester or Jim---andrew about it...
LEECO [12:46]: OK -I will see how itreacts now
ortrade [12:47]: PCBC 200s@2.22$pe
jim [12:51]: L ICO 4.68
nester [12:51]: jim - not sure if we are going to get another chance on it today. to me, it looks like it may fall for a while, though i'm not going to short it as i have killed myself on shorts today
jim [12:52]: Agree I will be watching PCBC for renentry low 2'S
ortrade [12:52]: Exit SNV -10$pe
majour [12:53]: add FBP 1.97
karenbcz [12:54]: LYG ramping up from 3.60 to 3.68 - swing trade only.
karenbcz [12:56]: MGI ramping up from 2.92
karenbcz [12:58]: STEC rebounded quite well from $12.50 ... Now 13.33
ortrade [13:15]: FBP 200@2.01$pe
nester [13:28]: in PCBC 2.32
Iswing64 [13:30]: I'd be in with ya nester but stocastics 1&5 min bother me
Iswing64 [13:31]: sorry cant spell lol
nester [13:35]: out - 1%
ortrade [13:39]: Exit AEE -7$pe
majour [13:40]: looks like FBP wants to climb again
nester [13:40]: ok swing. you lead now...
rw [13:47]: nester do you use level 11
nester [13:47]: rw - no i do not...
rw [13:48]: i am wondering why I do.. LOL
rw [13:48]: I am using macd and cci with 5ma and 12ma
ortrade [14:03]: Exit RIGL +30$pe
ortrade [14:04]: PCBC is being pushed lower..
rw [14:05]: watcjhing it closely for long entry
jim [14:08]: L PCBC 2.07
ortrade [14:09]: POM 200s16.66$pe
jim [14:10]: PCBC sell order in at 2.14
karenbcz [14:10]: Next bank ready to run = PBCT @ $15.oo :>)
karenbcz [14:13]: FMCN @ $15.20 - already ran up $1.oo (to $16.18), will run AGAIN ...
nester [14:14]: good call jim
jim [14:14]: out PCBC 2.14 +3%
nester [14:14]: didn't get picked up... was trying at 2.12
rw [14:15]: me either (hitting fingers with stapler)
jim [14:15]: I plan to reenter PCBC 2.05 ish
LEECO [14:15]: WELL-I just wrote a thousand dollar check to a lawyer to try and get my retirement pay flowing from the CFO (Chief Fraud Officer) of the corporation that now own my former company.
nester [14:15]: in now 2.12
nester [14:17]: want 2.17
jim [14:18]: got to go see you all later
nester [14:18]: c'ya jim
Iswing64 [14:18]: bye jim
ortrade [14:26]: have a good one jim
ortrade [14:26]: PCYC 200@7.72$pe
nester [14:28]: out @ 2.09
rw [14:31]: i took moving averages off my chart - going to start using candles and macd exclusively again ---did much better before adding so many indicators
ortrade [14:32]: Exit PCYC -18$pe
ortrade [14:33]: market looks like is selling off again..
rw [14:36]: me to Nester
Sandman [14:36]: rw Hi, that's how I'm doing so good.
rw [14:36]: waiting for tick to look better and pcbc to go down
rw [14:36]: sandman thanks.....glad to hear that
Iswing64 [14:37]: FAZ 12.71
ortrade [14:37]: PCYC 400@7.63$pe
ortrade [14:39]: Exit PPL -23$pe
ortrade [14:41]: Exit FBP -18$pe
Hank [14:44]: TRMA 2.72 add
ortrade [14:50]: THOR 200@29.97$pe
ortrade [14:51]: Exit POR -20$pe
madriver [14:56]: market looks to reverse a bit here i tink
Gar [14:56]: Here for the last hour...kind of.
Gar [14:57]: I see that the bloodbath continues. Glad I didn't play the lunar, if you recall, I said they destroyed it by jamming the market up in the final 30 minutes.
madriver [14:58]: hey Gar ...going to buy your book.
madriver [14:58]: i recall
madriver [14:58]: what's your best price LOL
Gar [15:00]: Hah, the price is already the best price. A virtual giveaway.
madriver [15:00]: joking..geez
karenbcz [15:01]: L BPOP @ 3.65
Gar [15:01]: It amazes me how the bulls keep trying to jam us higher. I watched in disbelief how they pushed this all the way to green earlier today. If we do the same thing into the close, there could be a major bloodbath tomorrow.
madriver [15:01]: I got the word "geez" from Karen
ortrade [15:02]: Exit PCYC +32$pe
karenbcz [15:02]: OUT Bpop
Gar [15:02]: What we need is more trials. It's been very slow this week (except Monday was decent). I think people are spooked with the market downslide, yet, that means they need this stuff now more than ever.
karenbcz [15:02]: 3.65
ortrade [15:02]: Exit THOR -18$pe
madriver [15:03]: I'm thinking we're going down to around 9250 on the dow over the next 3 months
madriver [15:03]: GAR...or whomever....what do you guys think?
Gar [15:04]: I'm hoping the market gives us a good lunar setup this time. What we need for that for the index(s) to hit their session lows a minute before the close---in flaming seller glory.
madriver [15:04]: probably go the opposite direction now that I said that
ortrade [15:04]: Exit PCBC +8$pe
LEECO [15:04]: RW-SEE MY 14:15 POST=lol
ortrade [15:04]: Exit POM +3$pe
Gar [15:05]: madriver, problem is I have thought that for about 6 months. Maybe it is finally panning out. I do know that the whole pattern has changed. They kept buying the dips for months. Now it seems they are selling the rallies.
123 [15:05]: Gar what does "roll over" mean as a choice on selling an option you own?
Gar [15:05]: 123, I think it simply means you buy the new options for the next expiration.
Gar [15:06]: I am not entirely sure but that's what I think it means. Fancy term for buying again.
123 [15:06]: do you get it at current value of your option?
karenbcz [15:07]: Ugh! Shudda stayed in BPOP @ 3.65. :>(
madriver [15:07]: Gar...the lists are real time right??? I know you've probably answered that a million times but...
123 [15:08]: Gar I made my first real option buy puts on erx...I messed up the order and sell but made $160.00 if I would still have it I would be up over $600.00
123 [15:11]: I bought at wrong strike price by mistake...out of money...43.80 puts wanted 44.80 puts bought at 2.70 2 days ago and ask is 5.70 now
madriver [15:12]: 123 atleast you learned something without losing your dough
Gar [15:12]: madriver, the lists are generated from realtime data. However, the "price" column is the average price between today's high and low. That's usually why people think the data is "delayed." It is not.
123 [15:12]: I made money not lost...but could have had bigger gains.
carr [15:12]: Hey I would be happy if a mistake made me $160 they usually cost me a lot.
madriver [15:12]: thx
nberman [15:13]: But Gar, the indices at the top of the page are delayed, aren't they?
Gar [15:13]: 123, that's awesome, even with errors. Keep in mind that "...I would have had..." has been true for me like 100% of the time with options, even when I do exactly what I planned. I can't tell you how many times I would make, say, $150 on the trade, only to watch it balloon to $900 had I stayed in...lol.
karenbcz [15:14]: THAT happens to me all the time ... i.e., NFLX
Gar [15:14]: No, the indices on the top are basically realtime. OK, they might be "delayed" 30 seconds sometimes, depending on how heavy the server hits are.
carr [15:14]: nberman I don't think so my live data feed matches perfectly unless that is a coincidenc
nberman [15:14]: well, I've to tradestation, interactive brokers and thinkorswim going here and I've notice that you're running, I think, like 15 minutes behind on the indices.
Gar [15:15]: Everything you see in this program is generated from real time. There are a few places where the data is intentionally witheld since we can't show real time quotes per se. For example, the papertrader portfolio is slightly delayed, even though the "trades" execute in real time.
madriver [15:15]: nberman I sure looks realtime to me??
123 [15:15]: I could have bought the same options at 4.70 today and been up 1. now too....could have would have should have lol
madriver [15:15]: it....just comparing to yahoo
nberman [15:15]: tos is 1164.80 now
carr [15:15]: I have esignal and they match up perfectly
nberman [15:15]: sv is 1163.88
nberman [15:16]: I've been watching this for awhile. Esignal realtime, though, is the real stuff, too, so if it matches, I can't explain.
Gar [15:16]: nberman, the S&P might be off, because that is what we get from our datafeed for some reason. I have noticed that too. But the Dow and NAS track really closely.
madriver [15:16]: carr........do you think esignal helps you be alot more profitable??
nberman [15:17]: I'm seeing a 7 point difference on the Dow (obviously it varies depending upon volatility)
Gar [15:17]: From our feed, I noticed the S&P only updates like once every minute or so. Do not know why. But I can assure you none of this is "delayed".
LEECO [15:18]: DJI is right now -80.34
knight [15:18]: add peix 1,14
carr [15:18]: madriver, yes because I like their ability to incorporate 3rd party apps as well as the Elliott version on advance get I do hate their screener for which they charge a fortune
Gar [15:18]: Well it is perhaps delayed by 10-20 seconds, because of the time it takes for each SV program to retrieve it.
nberman [15:18]: I have the same as you, LEECO
nberman [15:18]: Gar, I don't think so, at least not from what I've seen.
carr [15:18]: I also like the fact that I can trade directly of esignal with my broker
Gar [15:19]: The upcoming SV version will have about every screener you want, in real time.
nester [15:19]: PCBC 2.18
nberman [15:19]: I will say tthat the stocks, though the real time price isn't shown, usually has a good % time, synched with the real time feeds. It's only the indices I've noticed are off, and by quite a bit.
madriver [15:19]: carr...that is nice....I want to get a similiar setup
carr [15:19]: Gar the current version has plenty and I have yet to find a better screener after years of trying.
knight [15:20]: faz 12,90 short
madriver [15:20]: I love it Gar
madriver [15:20]: when is the "new version"
Gar [15:20]: nberman, I know how the system works, I built it. There is no INTENDED delay. Any delays that you see are either because of the lag from our server to SV, or it is the way we are getting it from our own feed. I don't know what else to say.
Gar [15:22]: New version? I don't know exactly. I am burried in projects over here.
nberman [15:22]: Well, who would intend a delay. The stuff you've got here is just being fed through (I imagine.) All I'm saying is that I'm observing a lag in the indices' print, though not with the actual securities' prints.
Sandman [15:22]: You explained it you don't have to say anything else.
madriver [15:22]: maybe it's your internet connection nberman
Gar [15:22]: That could be true about the indices. I think that is an issue with the datafeed service.
Gar [15:23]: Going to improve the speed a bit in the new version. The whole data mechanism is being revamped.
madriver [15:23]: are you using dialup?
knight [15:23]: RDN 11,35
nberman [15:23]: But if you match up the % change for the day on the issues in the "stock" tab, it's correct to the second decimal real time.
madriver [15:24]: now you are being ridiculous
rw [15:24]: GAR's BOOK: I have bought it and read it.....It has all the information that you would have to be here the last two years to obtain....GREAT value. I suggest everyone buy it
Gar [15:25]: OK, back to the market. If they jam this thing way way off the low, we are likely to have a major bloodbath tomorrow.
carr [15:25]: Good point rw I bought it last week, and just love it. Learned a lot even though I trade for a living.
knight [15:26]: take profit pcbc 1,7 to 2,25 part 4
Gar [15:26]: Because with this heavy downtrending this week, people are going to see a "selling opportunity" if we spike high.
Iswing64 [15:26]: Out FAZ @ 12.80
carr [15:26]: ITMN is making a nice come back
123 [15:26]: Gars book allready paid for itself many times over.
Sandman [15:27]: Well you guys are ahead of me. I deposited my check today so in three days I'll buy the book.
knight [15:27]: add more FBP 1,92
Gar [15:27]: Thanks guys. I wish the whole world realized what you are saying, because if they did, I could retire from my other jobs and do this full time.
madriver [15:27]: Gar so you are assuming that a pile of people got caught in downtrend and will sell at the earliest upside?
rw [15:28]: Tried to post on AMAZON but it would not take it as I have not bought anyting there lately
madriver [15:28]: Knight must make a fortune....the guy is unstoppable....and methodical
123 [15:28]: Gar any luck selling on amazon?
carr [15:28]: Sandman good investment if you are new to trading or very expericed.
Gar [15:28]: madriver, absolutely. Any rally will be seller's bait. The mindset has changed, I can feel it.
rw [15:28]: be sure and post on Amazon if youu have read gar book and have boughgt from amazon lately
rw [15:28]: book on amazon........
madriver [15:29]: THX
rw [15:29]: Yes - rarely does KNIGHT have a loss.
karenbcz [15:29]: I think Direxion and Proshares splitting their bull ETFs and Reverse splitting their bear ETFs coincides with market movement ... (conspiracy theory)
Gar [15:29]: Amazon kindle has sold a whopping two. And they keep 65%. It's kind of a ripoff (for me).
Gar [15:29]: But, the paperback will be available soon. That will probably do better.
karenbcz [15:30]: GAR: isn't it cheaper to sell on IFON?
rw [15:30]: some of you that bought book thru stockvision - should go to amazon and post a review ---but you have to be a recent amazon customer to do that
carr [15:30]: good point rw, I bought it direct thinking it would be more profitable for Gar, but the amazon leverage probably would have been a better choice. Maybe I will just buy it again on amazon
knight [15:30]: time is money folks...
karenbcz [15:30]: or appl?
madriver [15:30]: you are right knight.....get to business
knight [15:30]: seed show me a good turning point today
rw [15:30]: you have to buy any book from amazon ---not necessairly gar book just a book then you can post a review of gasr book
karenbcz [15:31]: Okay Knight. I'm waiting for FBP to go OVER $2.10.
Gar [15:31]: carr, actually it's the opposite. I get almost nothing from Amazon.
karenbcz [15:31]: I never sold my shares this moring.
knight [15:31]: it's show strenght in this volatile market
Gar [15:31]: Also the Amazon version is only for Kindle. It is wothless if you don't have a Kindle.
123 [15:32]: Why does amazon get such a huge cut,,,,do they promote you or anything for the big cut?
madriver [15:32]: Knight did you buy Gar's book?
Gar [15:32]: Actually, high volatility equals WEAKNESS. It always does. That's one thing that new traders don't understand. A wildly volatile market will inevitably move DOWN.
Sandman [15:32]: What's a Kindle?
karenbcz [15:32]: Mad: I think Knight wrote a book already.
knight [15:33]: i did 2 trade with FBP, 4 trades with pcbc --- what about if scotia buy FBP ?????
madriver [15:33]: i was looking for his endorsement
karenbcz [15:33]: Knight ... IF Scotia buys FBP, I'm looking for $5.oo!!!! BIGTIME!!
knight [15:34]: look at peix , will jump
karenbcz [15:34]: Knight: Also have PEIX ... I hope so ... I'm DYING to get OUT of it.
Gar [15:34]: I would be very cautious about longs at this stage. I sense they will hammer the market down senseless this time.
carr [15:34]: PEIX is doing very well today espeically considering almost everything else is down
knight [15:34]: i don't think 5 because scotia want to have this bank for peanuts....
rw [15:34]: I think some here bought PEIX at over two dollars -- but did not take profits
karenbcz [15:35]: I NEED another 0.20 cents on PEIX to make any money.
madriver [15:35]: FBP I think close to five because the market will over react as usual
carr [15:35]: My average for PEIX is 1.46, but I am looking at $2+ before I exit
karenbcz [15:36]: What does this tell you?
karenbcz [15:36]: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$NYSI&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p67621060186
Gar [15:36]: Wow...maybe we are setting up for a nice lunar bounce play.
Iswing64 [15:37]: FAZ @ 12.89
Gar [15:37]: Remember, we need to close at or near the day's low for a good lunar.
karenbcz [15:37]: KNIGHT: IF Scotia buys FBP - what r U looking for ?
knight [15:38]: Peix is a investment for long , long term because now they got the right business model with now profit ahead of 2010 --- and ethanol is more popular
Hank [15:39]: PEIX is in Bearish Phase, and the sellers have entered the market and pushing the price down. Support is 1.06 and resistance is 1.16. Possible run to 1.44 but still bearish . Short at 1.44
knight [15:39]: i think peix will go 20-40 $ range again in 2 years
karenbcz [15:39]: Great! Another DNDN!
karenbcz [15:39]: LOL!
Gar [15:40]: Dow needs to close -110 or worse for the lunar play to be on.
karenbcz [15:40]: I remember when I hada 1,000 shrs of DNDN @ $5.oo. NOW look at it!
knight [15:42]: all the bad news are behind Peix , and now they do profit - let see the next quarter and it's should start to climb - look at ADM
karenbcz [15:43]: KNIGHT: only problem w/ FBP .. "buy the rumor, sell the news" ... the "rumor" is already out. We saw $2.15. THAT might've been "the rally".
Gar [15:43]: Crude oil fell below $80. Real question is why was it so far above $80 in the first place.
madriver [15:43]: what the heck is that bar on bzh
knight [15:44]: FBP try to get 500 Million finance , if they fail Scotia grade FBP for peanuts then FBP might double at this moment - will remove fear and dilution over FBP
Gar [15:45]: I am starting to think lunar short now. Like I said, if they jam this higher into the close, tomorrow could be major downside.
madriver [15:45]: keep an eye on that one
moby [15:47]: options paperback out soon? where do we buy that? I will buy that too
Hank [15:48]: FBP & Scotia has possibilites , but the price will favour one side, 10-1 reverse split, then up the price and make it fall like ANX.
Gar [15:49]: The paperback will be available once I can find the time to complete the PDF master file for submission. It will be at a web site called lulu press.
madriver [15:49]: 10-1 reverse...it that the plan?
moby [15:50]: I see, okay, I guess that is you goal, to finish that first to get the book out of your way before you start working on the Powerscan version?
knight [15:50]: not 10-1 reverse - it's a take over -- not the same
moby [15:50]: your*
Andrew [15:50]: I'm a little surprised the sellers were able to get back control today after the huge buying volume the first couple of hours.
Hank [15:51]: madriver Id be watching my pockets on FBP next while.,
karenbcz [15:51]: Knight is correct ... TAKEOVER ... the co. being "takenover" will go UP.
madriver [15:51]: i believe hank
karenbcz [15:51]: But as I said, .... rumor is already out. So, Knight .. I'm expecting much.
knight [15:52]: scotia want to grab FBP - they already have 10 % of the float
madriver [15:52]: and you'll get little
karenbcz [15:52]: typo .... meant NOT expecting much.
karenbcz [15:52]: Knight ... Yes. I read the article.
LEECO [15:53]: Now -
madriver [15:53]: don't mess with knight!!
Hank [15:53]: Each to their own,
knight [15:54]: what's means ma driver ?????
Hank [15:54]: I dont pump period
madriver [15:54]: did you ever hear of madriver canoes, kayaks etc?
karenbcz [15:54]: Hank: I agree. to each their own. We all have OPINIONS. That's why we're here.
karenbcz [15:55]: no
madriver [15:55]: knight was asking me
knight [15:55]: no , i heard abour MACKIVER - a super hereo
knight [15:55]: in a TV show
Gar [15:56]: ENZN -- lunar short -- paper.
Hank [15:56]: Allways same people pumping , stock, so I stay away from the pumpers,
madriver [15:56]: no it's just the name of canoe I have ...
knight [15:56]: ah ok , you do outdoor sport ????
karenbcz [15:56]: DOW has 2 minutes to close UP!
madriver [15:56]: they make good ones so you probably never heard of it unless you're into it
Gar [15:57]: They are foolishly spiking the market up in teh final minutes. Watch for major downside tomorrow. Maybe not in the AM but later.
karenbcz [15:57]: FBp is tanking.
moby [15:57]: Hank you keep doing what you are doing, you are one of the main posters I watch, you post what you are doing, symbol and price....perfect
madriver [15:58]: yeah all types of stuff. Used to be a semi or good cat II bicycle racer but I do kayaking, whatever...i like outside
madriver [15:58]: it's like semi pro or Triple AAA baseball as far as comparison
madriver [15:59]: then I got hit by a car and the rest is history...but I still ride some
madriver [15:59]: knight..you do outdoor...
madriver [16:00]: lunar is gone
Gar [16:01]: Lunar short was possible. They have no business jamming it up like this. If they only knew what they were doing...I am 90% sure tomorrow will be major red.
knight [16:01]: yes the most important is to stay healhtfy
knight [16:02]: ASK »LEECO ???
madriver [16:02]: I hear you.......
madriver [16:03]: Leeco a bodybuilder?
knight [16:03]: money is only a tool
knight [16:03]: leeco has 90 years old
madriver [16:04]: wow....that is very impressive...
knight [16:04]: are u here leeco ??
madriver [16:04]: he fell asleep.lol
madriver [16:05]: in his chair....kidding
moby [16:05]: 90, wow....who else here is over 70?
madriver [16:05]: who's under 50?
knight [16:05]: and he was a successful business man with his engineer firm - playing the market for fun
Sandman [16:05]: I feel like a kid 67.
madriver [16:06]: keeping his mind sharp I'm sure
knight [16:06]: me i look like a child
knight [16:06]: 46
madriver [16:06]: how old are you knight?
madriver [16:07]: okay ...you're a little older than me but not by much
Sandman [16:07]: knight you must be the baby here.
knight [16:07]: how about you ?
Gar [16:07]: I wonder who the youngest here is?
madriver [16:07]: 43
Sandman [16:07]: madriver is the baby
Gar [16:07]: Maybe Andrew.
knight [16:07]: may be you GAr
LEECO [16:08]: knight-I'm here-just bwent off to straighten out a few small items pon the computer
Gar [16:08]: No knight. I am pressing 60.
madriver [16:09]: I bet there is no one under 30? Just a guess. Maybe even under 40
moby [16:09]: so the avg age here is 60, given the small sample
Andrew [16:09]: 26
knight [16:09]: wow i was thinking you were younger to make computer program...
madriver [16:09]: andrew drops the average
moby [16:09]: leeco raises it
Sandman [16:09]: My buddy Andrew is the baby.
Gar [16:09]: See, I told you maybe Andrew.
madriver [16:10]: yeah I bet he is
moby [16:10]: toss both out avg is 60
LEECO [16:10]: knight-you don't have to be young for brain power, intelligence or reasoning power-it is available at all ages-when Iwas 21cI was doing stress analysis on warplanes
madriver [16:10]: He wins the award but I bet you're about moby and why I say that is when I go to AAII meeting on ocassion I am the youngest by far it seems
madriver [16:11]: right moby
karenbcz [16:11]: THis guy says market ready to CRATER.
karenbcz [16:11]: http://broadcast.ino.com/education/dow54aff/%20?campaignid=3
madriver [16:12]: is Peter Schiff or some other idiot like him
Joe47121 [16:12]: GAR - check this link out it is for google ebooks just like Amazon http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16498&news=Google+Editions+ebooks+electronic+books+eReader
karenbcz [16:13]: DOW going down another 50 pts. from here.
Gar [16:13]: karen I am saying the same thing. I think today's end-of-day run up was really stupid. Tomorrow and maybe Monday I expect massive downside.
Gar [16:13]: Hey thanks joe, I will look at it.
karenbcz [16:13]: GAR: yep ... I'm gonna buy an inverse ETF afterhours.
karenbcz [16:15]: Ya' know ... I'm TELLING you there is a direct correlation between Direxion and Proshares splitting their bull ETFs, and Reverse splitting the bear ETFS and the market.
Gar [16:15]: That's probably a good move karen. Just remember that the market could spike UP in the AM but if I am reading the signs right, it will be to no avail and even stupid.
Joe47121 [16:16]: Gar - I've been trying to tweek a SV screen filter for the MACD daily Histogram but so far have no luck. Do you have any idea how to set this up? Thanks in advance
LEECO [16:18]: Nite all-going out in the garden and plant some corn, tomatoes & Jalopena peppers-back here early tomorrow
moby [16:18]: Joe: soon you'll be able to tweak to mosy any setting you want for MACd, or any other indicator
karenbcz [16:18]: Looking at the ETFs, they're all RIP-OFFS.
moby [16:18]: most*
moby [16:18]: powerscan version is coming
karenbcz [16:18]: LEECO: I had tomato sandwich for lunch.
Joe47121 [16:18]: okay will wait... thanks moby
Andrew [16:19]: The triples seem to best be used just for day trading or short term swing trades when there is a strong consistent trend.
Sandman [16:19]: Joe47121 Hi, did you try screen selection MACD crossing up?
carr [16:19]: karen, were those tomatoes fresh from the garden or store bought?
sshroff100 [16:20]: any more traning document? how to refer?
Andrew [16:20]: Letting those triples go against you at all, even just a little bit can be extremely dangerous. I'd much rather exit for a small loss and then get back in later (at a worse price) if it turned out I was right.
moby [16:21]: sshroff: http://www.stockvision.proboards.com/
karenbcz [16:21]: CARR; store ... I may try to grow tomatoes again this year. Last year, all mine died.
sshroff100 [16:22]: moby thank you
carr [16:22]: well karen I hope at least they were organic. I too had bad luck with tomatoes last year.
Joe47121 [16:22]: Sandman yes I did. but I think I need a extra selection along with it.
karenbcz [16:23]: CARR: No one in my neighborhood grew good tomatoes last year.
Gar [16:23]: Joe, the closest thing in this version is the MACD Curve (up or down). It is actually computed from the MACD historgram. So for curve UP that means the histogram is moving up, and reverse for down. That is the closest thing we have until the new version.
carr [16:23]: sshroff, you could also buy Gars book which is a great value, and will stay with you for as long as you trade.
karenbcz [16:23]: But, I'm growing excellent BASIL.
carr [16:23]: Karen I find herbs much easier to grow than tomatoes
madriver [16:23]: how about melons?
Gar [16:24]: I gotta head out. Good to be here for longer than 13 minutes..lol.
Joe47121 [16:24]: thanks GAR...
carr [16:24]: take care Gar
karenbcz [16:25]: TZA is a rip-off
karenbcz [16:25]: There are no cheap ETFs.
karenbcz [16:25]: Proshares R/S split all the bear ETFs so they can make more money.
carr [16:25]: good night Andrew, Ernie, karen, knight, LEECO, madriver, ortrade, Sandman and all
karenbcz [16:25]: 2 wks. ago FXP was only $7. Now it's $44!
madriver [16:26]: night carr....
karenbcz [16:26]: Proshares = scumbags.
moby [16:26]: Joe: the MACD Curve up will be the quicker setting, and the MACD Crossover is a step or 2 behind
moby [16:27]: Joe: what settings do you input when you customize your own charts?
madriver [16:28]: later....enjoy your evening folks
Joe47121 [16:34]: Moby I was using MACD crossup and oversold
rw [21:07]: yrdy
karenbcz [21:15]: I'm gonna sit this correction out.
rw [21:23]: Missed you went away to kitchen
sshroff100 [21:28]: what is MACd
moby [21:33]: http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:moving_average_conve
Iswing64 [21:33]: Moving Average Convergence/Divergence...(MACD)
nester [1:37]: out PCBC +2% afterhours
Iswing64 [21:40]: Good job nester..what did you get out of that one today?...%wise.
Iswing64 [21:41]: hey pick
picker304 [21:41]: Hey Swing
picker304 [21:41]: Whats up man
Iswing64 [21:42]: not much waiting on you
Iswing64 [21:42]: lol
picker304 [21:42]: I thought MACD stood for My algorthym caused downtrend
Iswing64 [21:42]: LOL
flower2bi [21:42]: will there be another big sell day 2morrow
nester [21:42]: in and out 6 times, 4 of 6 winners... overall, i think i walked away with 7 or 8%
Iswing64 [21:43]: cool nester...got 7% today
nester [21:43]: you did? that is great
picker304 [21:43]: Hey guys take your braggin' somewhere else LOL
Iswing64 [21:43]: ok
Iswing64 [21:43]: sorry
nester [21:43]: no prob...
picker304 [21:44]: LOL I love you guys
picker304 [21:44]: flower2bi no one really knows but the downtrend sure looks strong
picker304 [21:45]: This market has fooled us many times in the past
nester [21:45]: i wish i didn't place a sell order on it. just wasn't sure what direction it was going afterhours. it is up 8% afterhours
Iswing64 [21:45]: more faz days...this week?
Iswing64 [21:46]: wow
nester [21:46]: flower - don't think so. fairly decent day on pullbacks. don't think we will start to tank for another week or two
Iswing64 [21:47]: pick you still testing?
picker304 [21:48]: Yes Swing I have found a very cool method for gap downs using aroon. I guess I'll start daytrading again.
Iswing64 [21:48]: Great
nester [21:49]: make sure you send out the "decoder ring" when you get it figured out...
Iswing64 [21:49]: LOL
picker304 [21:50]: Backtested with 45 of 50 with over 2% gain this is in todays early market
picker304 [21:50]: Nester wanna buy a decoder ring LOL
Iswing64 [21:50]: Good....very...good
nester [21:51]: maybe... may just give you the keys to my account if you can do that !
Iswing64 [21:51]: No...buy mine i have several
Iswing64 [21:52]: Diff one for everyday
picker304 [21:52]: Yea but the problem is the 5 bad ones Thats the ones I'll choose everytime
picker304 [21:52]: Crap LOL
Iswing64 [21:52]: lol...are you ok?
nester [21:53]: swing - i think i have those rings...
picker304 [21:53]: Yep
Iswing64 [21:53]: ARE you sure?,,,lol
picker304 [21:53]: Not really lol
Iswing64 [21:54]: Oh you make my day pick...lol
Iswing64 [21:54]: Nester are you sure?
nester [21:55]: think so. have about 18 different ones. 1 works well all the time. just can't find it anymore...
picker304 [21:56]: Hey I was noticing how everybody was telling thrie age today that was cool.Including myself we sure have alot of ol' wonderful farts in this place
Iswing64 [21:56]: same problem....which one today
karenbcz [21:56]: Picker: LEECO told me he was 90!
Sandman [21:57]: You calling me an old fart?
Iswing64 [21:57]: oh how old are you pick
picker304 [21:57]: LOL no like me an ol wonderful fart
karenbcz [21:57]: Pick is 60
picker304 [21:57]: No I'm not 51
karenbcz [21:58]: lol!
Iswing64 [21:58]: whew!!! had me worried
nester [21:58]: old fart...
picker304 [21:58]: how about you swing I know you're young right?
Iswing64 [21:58]: 46
picker304 [21:58]: Told you lad
picker304 [21:59]: Ok Karen give it up I won't ask a lady but you can share if you'd like
Iswing64 [21:59]: nester?
Sandman [21:59]: Did you notice that karenbcz didn't say a word when we told our age.
Iswing64 [21:59]: lol
nester [21:59]: 18
nester [21:59]: lol...
karenbcz [21:59]: :>)
Iswing64 [21:59]: lol
nester [21:59]: 49
picker304 [21:59]: nester 18 + ___
Iswing64 [21:59]: 18 +++++?
picker304 [22:00]: nester 49 + ___ LOL
Iswing64 [22:00]: lol
picker304 [22:00]: You know I think we need to kick Andrew out of here he needs to be in the Boy scouts LOL
Iswing64 [22:01]: cub scouts
nester [22:01]: he's a young lad
picker304 [22:01]: lol
Iswing64 [22:01]: cubby
picker304 [22:01]: Karen oh Karen where are you Karen
Sandman [22:01]: Just came on to get the Hot Stock Now list to look over, might be ready to get out of SBSA.
karenbcz [22:01]: Andrew TRADES like he's in his 20's. LOL!
Iswing64 [22:01]: she got quiet
Iswing64 [22:01]: age?
karenbcz [22:01]: Actually, I'm working on charts..
picker304 [22:01]: Good luck Sandman
karenbcz [22:02]: Trying to figure out what PCBC's gonna do tomorrow.
picker304 [22:02]: Charts can wait give it up lOL
karenbcz [22:02]: Man! That was some run!
karenbcz [22:02]: what? my age?
picker304 [22:02]: LOL
Sandman [22:02]: Thanks and lots of luck to you picker304.
karenbcz [22:02]: I'm younger than LEECO.
karenbcz [22:02]: :>)
picker304 [22:03]: From one ol fart to another have a great one friend
nester [22:03]: PCBC's going up a bit more i think after the drop in the premarket
karenbcz [22:03]: not quite 90.
picker304 [22:03]: Chicken LOL
karenbcz [22:03]: Nester: i think PCBC going up too.
Sandman [22:03]: Really you don't act like it. karenbcz
karenbcz [22:03]: Gawd! I hate these Think or Swim Grid charts.
karenbcz [22:04]: They're not user friendly.
picker304 [22:04]: Karen just watch those magnificent mms They're gooood!
Iswing64 [22:04]: M&M's
karenbcz [22:04]: M&Ms?
picker304 [22:05]: No they're sweet mms bad stuff
picker304 [22:05]: lol
Iswing64 [22:05]: got her attention again
nester [22:05]: southpark's on... got to run love that show
Iswing64 [22:05]: lol
Iswing64 [22:05]: c'ya nester
karenbcz [22:05]: I ate some "Good n' Plenty" jellybeans tonite ... I'm a little "ill".
karenbcz [22:05]: :>)
karenbcz [22:06]: Jellybeans prolly "made in china".
karenbcz [22:06]: toxic!
picker304 [22:06]: M&Ms choclate candies melt in your mouth not in your hand sorta like my stock picks they just melt away
karenbcz [22:07]: nester went to watch SOUTHPARK. LOL!
picker304 [22:07]: LOL he must be 18
flower2bi [22:08]: whats the big play 2morrow pcbc?????
picker304 [22:08]: Ask Karen bout one flower
karenbcz [22:08]: you'll have to watch the pre-market
karenbcz [22:09]: PICK: did you see my minute by minute updates in last nite's archives on ITMN?
flower2bi [22:09]: wow i dont think its going 2b good
karenbcz [22:09]: I don't try to "guess" ...
picker304 [22:10]: How could I miss it it was all blue for an hour LOL
flower2bi [22:10]: well with everything going on n greece everybody is sell mode
karenbcz [22:10]: That was sooooooooooooo unbelievable!
karenbcz [22:11]: i gotta go ... c you tomorrow.
picker304 [22:11]: That was amazing wasn't it hey you don't play around with those bios
flower2bi [22:11]: they was having a riot last i seen
picker304 [22:12]: So many of those stocks are so dang manipulated down or up market
picker304 [22:13]: Bios are worse than pennies
flower2bi [22:13]: gotta question hopefully it could get answered
flower2bi [22:15]: bought BBI @.38 trying to catch a breakout from all the good news my prediction will be @1.00 within 1week whats everyone opion if i can ask
Sandman [22:16]: I'll look at it.
flower2bi [22:16]: thanks
karenbcz [22:18]: flower: this might help you ....
karenbcz [22:18]: scroll down and watch the video
karenbcz [22:18]: http://www.walayatstreet.com/
Sandman [22:18]: I would wait until the MACD Histogram starts to go up. Right now it's going down. Watch until it starts to go up
karenbcz [22:19]: GAR is also expecting market to go DOWN.
flower2bi [22:19]: thanks karen watching it now
picker304 [22:20]: flower if you're new read this http://www.stockvision.proboards.com/
picker304 [22:28]: flower you still here
picker304 [22:31]: I use the atm play its great but practice with paper first
flower2bi [23:09]: picker iam still here i was in penny stock land trying to find some pennies
picker304 [23:10]: Hey flower be careful with those pennies my friend
flower2bi [23:11]: yea but pennies turns to $$ what is the atm play
picker304 [23:15]: The atm is the gap play did you find the tutorial on it
flower2bi [23:15]: yes thks
picker304 [23:16]: Practice on paper its a great trade if played correctly. Its time sensitive
Iswing64 [23:16]: sooo right pick paper trade study...learn what you are Really doing 2bi...ok
picker304 [23:16]: Did the alternate board help?
flower2bi [23:17]: yes thks
picker304 [23:17]: Anytime
flower2bi [23:18]: on the penny stocks i watch for the pumps and dumps trry 2 get n on pump out b4 dump had pretty good success
flower2bi [23:19]: picker thks gotta go 4 now looking at sum penny stocks
picker304 [23:20]: See you flower good luck
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